Pictures of Lambretta Super Monza Kit.....

[sean brady scooters]

28 ft/lbs of torque is an amazing number ...never ever seen a scoot delivering that in all my life as yet
but then ,i have had a sheltered life

[RICSPEED]

The new Super Monza barrel kit; will it be used on the race track as the TS1 was; or has it not been allowed yet?

muppet,

at the moment no ..... due to the studs

how do those race scooters survive then with 35/40 bhp if there cylinder threads arnt tapped deeper, or is there another reason that i have missed ,,,,mind you someone better tell adam winston then couse his home brew 240 has something like 28 ft lbs of torque and i dont think hes ever "pulled a cylinder stud"

as i undersand the bsso regs ...the cylinder must be fixed in the original manner ..i was under the impression the lower studs were shorter ..........but wether or not this rule will change or not i dont know

[nelson pk]

The extra tapping of cylinder threads could just be that there seems to be differences from casing to casing on indian engines from what i've heard. I've been told in the past that some are threaded deep and some aren't threaded very deep at all. Maybe racers check the length of threads before they build their engines, i dont know.
I bought an indian chaincase a couple of years back and when i got home there were no threads at all for the breather, just a nice gaping hole.
I did think about continuing the indian lambretta tradition of engineering and hammer the breather in but i decided an exchange item at the shop from where i bought it would be better!

[RICSPEED]

NOOOOOO!!

the super monza has short studs on the exhaust side of the cylinder .....instead of the long standard type (which must be used for bsso)

[lamy150]

The extra tapping of cylinder threads could just be that there seems to be differences from casing to casing on indian engines from what i've heard. I've been told in the past that some are threaded deep and some aren't threaded very deep at all. Maybe racers check the length of threads before they build their engines, i dont know.
I bought an indian chaincase a couple of years back and when i got home there were no threads at all for the breather, just a nice gaping hole.
I did think about continuing the indian lambretta tradition of engineering and hammer the breather in but i decided an exchange item at the shop from where i bought it would be better!

i take it the indians didn't blueprint their casings then?

[jonny snatchsniffer]

but the cylinder is still fixed down with studs, just smaller, are you allowed longer studs for stroked motors then, or are smalframes allowed either long or short studs as they came standard with both ?

[RICSPEED]

but the cylinder is still fixed down with studs, just smaller, are you allowed longer studs for stroked motors then, or are smalframes allowed either long or short studs as they came standard with both ?

....you have a good point ...but the rules need to be clarified as it stands i dont think it will be allowed ...time will tell

[nelson pk]

i take it the indians didn't blueprint their casings then?

Now how did i know that would crop up again

[gtwildcat]

If I had the money to buy this kit and had as many reservations about it as some people on here seem to have I would probably just pick up the phone and ask mr Edmonds who is the designer of the kit for the answers. Logical thing to do I would think. Why guess why certain things have been designed like they have when performance tuning are at the end of a phone?

erm...... so a very busy man spends hours on the phone answering questions from people about why he has designed something etc etc and presumably expected to give away all his knowledge? erm.........???

if i had designed something like this kit and someone who was interested in buying it and having it fitted it to his scooter rang me for advice i would quite happily spend time on the phone with him because A) i might generate some work for myself by offering my engine building and tuning services and B) if it helped the customer get his engine set up properly so the kit performed well and put me in a good light i would think it would be worth a 10 minute chat on the phone.

[Chris CSPE]

Seeing as it's sold through Cam Lam and not CE then you probably would be waisting his time.