Ron Moss - Avanti TT3 - Cylinder Kit - Review & Test.....

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soosh wrote:Hasn't anyone done over 1000mls yet and really putting this kit through its paces? What's happened to the Scooterotica built Avanti?
over 800 miles and due to go in for checks and tune up very shortly, ive been posting since xmas on all events and step by step accounts of road going miles, keep up Soosh :D
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Andy Pickering wrote: over 800 miles and due to go in for checks and tune up very shortly, ive been posting since xmas on all events and step by step accounts of road going miles, keep up Soosh :D



So you've only done 800 miles since Xmas?









That's 799 miles more than I've ridden in that time. :oops:
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over 1800 miles on mine now and ragging the arse off it. just waiting for Ron to bring out the new clubman. 74 mph out of it with series 2 bodywork and a fat b@5t@rd rider, genuine gps speed not geiger counter speedo
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gp200ts1 wrote:over 1800 miles on mine now and ragging the arse off it. just waiting for Ron to bring out the new clubman. 74 mph out of it with series 2 bodywork and a fat b@5t@rd rider, genuine gps speed not geiger counter speedo
What carb and jetting?
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Andy Pickering wrote:
soosh wrote:Hasn't anyone done over 1000mls yet and really putting this kit through its paces? What's happened to the Scooterotica built Avanti?
over 800 miles and due to go in for checks and tune up very shortly, ive been posting since xmas on all events and step by step accounts of road going miles, keep up Soosh :D
Andy,it was easier to ask than go back reading through all these pages ;) :)
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Update on kit 47 1000 +

Ended up tuning the kit as it was not doing what i wanted from it as found out on Dutch Lions run

Its now kit 47.5 built night before LCGB 65th, caned there, up the strip 7 times max 66 mph 1/8 mile, thrashed home, then caned to Mersea and back with a big grin!!

Just stripped down for inspection ready for scooter shootout and found one of the cylinder head nuts loose (fell off when cowling removed) and obviously a leaky head. Cylinder has a couple of marks on it most notably by bridge and above ex port.

Also clutch has started to slip using the AF 6 plate which is a shame as i liked the action and feel of clutch

Carb wise been using 30 PHBH and VHSH on jetting similar to whats been posted

I will be building another for customer now i have put it through its paces
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^... be interesting to see/know what people are doing to the standard kit. Considering that 20+ years of TS1 development is still in full progress, I've no doubt that there will be lots of potential for further working of the Avanti too. IMO the Avanti is a really good road use kit in 'off the shelf' format but there will be lots of scope for further advancing the exhaust port timing to increase BHP (at the expense of some low rev torque). Indeed, I think that the conservative (by many kit standards) port timings are a really good thing as they work well in standard trim BUT still leave potential for further work (NOTE: further work is the last thing that many people actually need if they are intending to use the bike for touring!). Most people know that the 'off the shelf' TS1 is a powerful and reliable kit but that doesn't stop people from doing more... and I'm sure that it will be the same with the Avanti.

Actually, I'm looking to see what people start to get out of this kit when tuning for sprint or race use. The standard exhaust port timing is low when compared to single port kits but the port time area allows the kit to rev well + make good torque, however, advancing exhaust port timing, with the benefit of the substantial bridge (don't narrow it!!!), should start to return very impressive dyno and real-world results (IMO).

These are early days for the Avanti and whilst I love the performance of the standard kit, I also love to see how creative many people are with tuning other kits and look forward to seeing 30+ BHP Avanti sprinters and race bikes in the future :) We have many examples of people welding in bridges (nothing like as efficient or stable as the cast in Avanti exhaust bridge) to allow for monster Lambretta motors, and there are numerous bike cylinders and aftermarket bike/auto kits that use the same exhaust configuration that make BIG power :)

Another thing that Ron did was to build up the area around the transfers so that there is lots of potential to increase transfer feed areas if tuners feel that this is the way to go. What better than to start with a cylinder that fits a standard casing but already has the metal cast in so that you can rework it without having to have the additional welding and replating that other castings require. It is easy to remove metal from a cylinder but it is difficult to add it, whether because it isn't there to start with or whether a cylinder is over ported as standard. Indeed, I've really struggled to find kits to 'play with' as many of them are already on the limit (or too far) of port timings for touring or road use.

Ah, the fun of fettling ;)

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soosh wrote:
Andy Pickering wrote:
soosh wrote:Hasn't anyone done over 1000mls yet and really putting this kit through its paces? What's happened to the Scooterotica built Avanti?
over 800 miles and due to go in for checks and tune up very shortly, ive been posting since xmas on all events and step by step accounts of road going miles, keep up Soosh :D
Andy,it was easier to ask than go back reading through all these pages ;) :)
Lol :grin:

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Over 1600 miles on kit 71. still going strong and no issues with the kit. Currently running a 28mm Dellorto and franspeed tour exhaust but thinking of trying a Mikuni TMX 35 or 34mm dellorto. Anyone running a "big carb" ??
GPS showed 76mph a couple of weeks ago and i suspect under the right conditions might get a bit more.
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corrado wrote:
gp200ts1 wrote:over 1800 miles on mine now and ragging the arse off it. just waiting for Ron to bring out the new clubman. 74 mph out of it with series 2 bodywork and a fat b@5t@rd rider, genuine gps speed not geiger counter speedo
What carb and jetting?

30mm Phbh
50 pilot
X13 2nd clip
Av266
40 slide
122 main
running an avanti clubman and carb has a breathing sweet filter
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