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Mugello 225?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:13 pm
by Lamaddict
I'm building a new motor. I'd like to be able to do a true 65MPH comfortably and get up to the odd blast at 70. I'd like to use a 25 Dellorto and Clubman.

I thought about the new RT220 MB kits but then Mugello sounds suitable and cheaper :) . Any pro's, cons, suggestions?

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:27 pm
by coaster
Based on what I have heard, you might struggle to get the performance you want out of the muggy due to it have a VERY mild state of tune used on the 225. Maybe and expert can confirm?

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:40 pm
by soosh
But you can tune it further and may still be cheaper

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:29 pm
by redrev
I have the RT220 kit and are very pleased with it, have a chat with Mark at MB first about what he thinks of the Mugello 225, then make our mind up!

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:12 pm
by soosh
Well he isnt gonna say its great is he.Any kit is going to be good if its got the holes in the right places and comes with a good piston and cylinder head.
Ive got the cheapest kit on the market but its been played with further and does the job and still only cost £200 although it was a couple of years ago.

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:05 pm
by cezeta
have a ride on my mugello 225.....im not going to say its great either because its near to standard 200 power. its crap

do the maths, muggy plus a 60mm crank (assential aparently) plus tuning v rt kit.

the rt has a recessed head and an extra cooling fin so is safer. a forged piston, a safe on unleaded head and comes tuned already

or look at something else as the mugello is no going to give you 65mph all day.

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:11 pm
by thackers
I've had a Muggy 225 for a few years now without any trouble. I got it from Cam Lam and had it stage 5 reaper tuned as i heard out of the box performance wasn't great, things might have changed now though. When i had it dyno'd it made 18.5. It could perhaps be made quicker but it's ok for me. I use a 30 mm Dell`orto. About 2 years ago i did a 400 mile round trip in a day up and down the A1 at around 60mph most of the time (i was with Wellerchap on his Muggy 186 G.P) and i know the engine had more to go at. I think there o.k, but that's just my view ;)

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:49 pm
by cezeta
out of the box with a 25mm delly and clubman it put out 12bhp and was slower on the top speed than the indian stage 4 it replaced.

cant beat ali barrels in my opinion but just be warned it MUST be tuned if you go down that route.

Re: Mugello 225?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:22 pm
by Bilko
thackers wrote:I've had a Muggy 225 for a few years now without any trouble. I got it from Cam Lam and had it stage 5 reaper tuned as i heard out of the box performance wasn't great, things might have changed now though. When i had it dyno'd it made 18.5. It could perhaps be made quicker but it's ok for me. I use a 30 mm Dell`orto. About 2 years ago i did a 400 mile round trip in a day up and down the A1 at around 60mph most of the time (i was with Wellerchap on his Muggy 186 G.P) and i know the engine had more to go at. I think there o.k, but that's just my view ;)

I did the same in '05 and as above it's ran great, with 78mph (GPS) on the motorway two up with spare throttle. I haven't touched the engine in 5 years.

(I think I'm going to regret saying that) :(