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gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:23 pm
by ridden not hidden
Ok so last week kickstarted my TS1 and felt something give but didn't think to much of it (20+ years of lambrettas should have told me not to proceed) but I popped to the shops came home and put it away. This morning I open up the casing and its carnage!, the kickstart shaft piston circlip and spring are sitting in the bottom of the casing nestled amongst a pile of debris that used to be part of the 1st gear kickstart teeth!. Now I understand that a full strip and check/replace of all components is required and will be done but I wanted to seek opinions on the following:
My current gearbox is AF close ratio, do they still sell them and if so can I just get 1st gear?
I have read that the AF box in high BHP motors can be weak so is it worth going for something else anyway and if so what do people recommend?
what do you think caused the circlip and spring to give way and can it be avoided in the future?
It currently has the GP ramp but I have heard its better to convert to LI/SX type for more leverage, is this worth doing?

Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:51 pm
by Doom Patrol
I should say so. People seem to prefer it because you can adjust the ramp. And it seems relatively easy to do for those with a bit of technical savvy.
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:19 pm
by 10 inch Terror
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:05 pm
by ridden not hidden
Thanks for the pics looks simple enough, do I need to change to an LI type endplate?
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:17 pm
by 10 inch Terror
You just cut the ramp off the end plate you already have. It should be machined for the casing you're using.
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:01 pm
by DaveTomo
ridden not hidden wrote:Thanks for the pics looks simple enough, do I need to change to an LI type endplate?
As said above just cut the ramp off - much better adjustment also takes the pressure of the kickstart off the endplate

Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:14 pm
by ridden not hidden
Thanks chaps definitely going to do this mod. I have a concern about the kickstart shaft that I am using because the circlip and washer have obviously let go along with the spring. do you think this is likely to happen again or should I replace the shaft?
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:32 pm
by alanscottj
To answer 2 of your other questions, yes, AF still make the close ratio, and yes you can buy a first gear on its own. I have just fitted the AF close ratio to my TS1
Also, I have just converted the kickstart ramp on mine, the difference on the kickstart is amazing. For the first time since owning this engine, the kickstart connects straight away, it used to travel abut 2-3 inches before it connected!
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:53 pm
by 10 inch Terror
Re: gearbox/kickstart woes! :-(
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 8:02 pm
by ridden not hidden
alanscottj wrote:To answer 2 of your other questions, yes, AF still make the close ratio, and yes you can buy a first gear on its own. I have just fitted the AF close ratio to my TS1
Also, I have just converted the kickstart ramp on mine, the difference on the kickstart is amazing. For the first time since owning this engine, the kickstart connects straight away, it used to travel abut 2-3 inches before it connected!
That's good news on both counts
