Piston woes....

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Timbo
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Running in a 68 Racetour piston in a rebored barrel. Piston and barrel were matched. Done about 450 miles and was riding back from Coventry 45/48 mph max. Was on a dual carriage way when I lost power and engine cut out. I knew I had lost compression from the kick start and guessed it was probably the rings and sure enough the bottom of the rings appear "welded" in :o Barrel look ok ish. Plug colour is ok. Any thoughts why this has happened? Is the very expensive piston recoverable? Please be gentle... :roll:

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Speed you were doing is to a certain extent irrelevant. Were you varying throttle opening / speed or sitting at a constant speed? Coasting downhill on a partially open throttle? Did you have a full tank or near reserve? What carb and what float valve?
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Yes varying throttle, and had filled up 15/20 miles earlier (crap petrol?) Using mineral oil which I poured on top of the petrol. Would it have mixed? Was doing a constant speed for 5-10 miles as was on dual carriage way. Not coasting and didn't go over half/two thirds throttle. Newish 26 delly.
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whats in the carb jet/slide wise ?
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108 main, needle is 2nd notch. Can't remember the rest but can look. Is the piston completely fecked?
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s**t piston
s**t oil
s**t petrol



all of the above conbined result in pistons loiking like that
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Oh Timbo just when u were taking the p155 out of me with my problems :D my advice is buy a new scooter it's knackered :twisted:
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rondord wrote:s**t piston
s**t oil
s**t petrol



all of the above conbined result in pistons loiking like that
That's an RT piston, wouldn't consider them s**t by any means. I beat the hell out of mine and 3k miles later the motor still fires first kick.


This is the problem "15-20 miles after a fill up while using mineral oil that was poured in after....."


User error.

Your piston is a door stop now.
Timbo
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I put in 4.8 litres into a 11.5 litre tank so would have thought it would have mixed ok... :oops:
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The oil will mix as it's heavier and will sink and vibration will mix it in. I don't like mineral oil nowadays in any scoot, especially not converted cylinder/performance engine to be honest,but you've been running it in the bike prior to this I presume, so it's unlikely to be oil,especially as you weren't wanging it. There are no air leaks on the cylinder are there?
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