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TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:31 pm
by 10 inch Terror
Hi all, is this an accurate way of measuring TDC? It's something i cobbled together as I'm not too keen on using the piston stop throught the spark plug hole method. Any comments / advice greatly appreciated Pete.
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Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:04 pm
by fairspares
put a dial gauge in the middle then you have it.

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:29 pm
by 10 inch Terror
fairspares wrote:put a dial gauge in the middle then you have it.
I'm confused now. Surely this is the same as the "positive stop" method only with the cylinder head removed. Or I'm I missing something here?

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:45 pm
by thebassmasta
whats wrong with sticking something down the plug hole? i use plumbers solder as the positive stop, clockwise, mark, anticlockwise, mark, put your timing gauge on your flywheel and inbetween your 2 marks is TDC, then adjust to how many degress you want to set up, EASY. ive also done your set up with a dial gauge in the middle, when the motors out of the frame

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:35 pm
by sean brady scooters
in my experience ,the positive stop method is by far the most accurate ...either with head on or off .

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:38 pm
by lambro
thebassmasta wrote:whats wrong with sticking something down the plug hole? i use plumbers solder as the positive stop, clockwise, mark, anticlockwise, mark, put your timing gauge on your flywheel and inbetween your 2 marks is TDC, then adjust to how many degress you want to set up, EASY. ive also done your set up with a dial gauge in the middle, when the motors out of the frame

Does solder not squish just a gnats cock on the first positive stop and then go slightly further on the other poitive stop??

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:39 pm
by lambro
Piston dead stop tool, just don't use the kickstart to bring the piston to the stop.
Works for me 8-)

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:45 pm
by paul d
Someone well respected in the scootering world had a hook suspended from a ceiling on which he'd hang a lambretta engine using the conrod and tdc would get marked off. I can't remember the person but I thought it was a great solution. There's always more than one way to skin a cat!

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:45 pm
by Muppet
rice krispies test is best; ya poor some in y plug hole an turn y engine flyweel round til y hear snap mark it back otha way till y hear crackle mark it then y put a pop between the two; works for me 8-)

muppet,

Re: TDC the measuring of.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:08 pm
by thebassmasta
lambro wrote:
thebassmasta wrote:whats wrong with sticking something down the plug hole? i use plumbers solder as the positive stop, clockwise, mark, anticlockwise, mark, put your timing gauge on your flywheel and inbetween your 2 marks is TDC, then adjust to how many degress you want to set up, EASY. ive also done your set up with a dial gauge in the middle, when the motors out of the frame

Does solder not squish just a gnats cock on the first positive stop and then go slightly further on the other poitive stop??
not plumbers solder its about 8mm thick