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Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:26 am
by bogs
Set up is malossi ported barrel and matched case transfers , 16' ignition , 1.25 mm squish, jl pipe and standard carb.
It pings its head off at about 6000 rpm, so mid throttle in 4 th.
I've tried with 140 air corrector and be4 in carb as been advised but tbh the 140 makes it 4 stroke.
Any ideas of how to stop pinging would be appreciated
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:11 am
by rapido230
What head is it? Is it one that's been machined or bought? Because of compression ratio, also see you using leaded or super
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:38 am
by drunkmunkey6969
What's the full spec of your jetting?
Pilot, main, atomiser, air corrector etc?
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:44 pm
by bogs
The malossi kit is purchased from sip its the sesc tuned black coated barrel that comes with the mmw head that they claim reduces pinging !
The jetting for the 24 mm standard carb is pj 45/120 (2.66) mix screw 3 out, emulsion tube is be4,air corrector 160( tried 140 but 4 stroked) mj 132, slide is standard.
I use 95 octane unleaded.
Any suggestions?
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:33 pm
by rapido230
That kit is for a long stroke crank, I gather you have a 60mm crank? And I wouldn't run on 95 unleaded, I been using super on mine for yrs , on way cleethorpes I had to put in normal unleaded and it pinged and blew my piston
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:48 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
Try this: 50/100 132m/BE3/140ac screw 2.5 turns out.
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:37 pm
by bogs
Thanks for the advice, I will try this set up. Yes it has a 60 mm crank.
If your set up was pinging on super rapido 230 wouldn't mean you have a similar problem. If so what was similar to my set that may identify the issue.
Drunk monkey have you experienced this issue and if so was it resolved by using a lower octane fuel ?

Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:02 pm
by rapido230
Meant mine was pinging on normal 95 unleaded, I ALWAYS use super but as no stations had super I was fooked lol, therefore an expensive repair
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:14 pm
by bogs
rapido230 wrote:Meant mine was pinging on normal 95 unleaded, I ALWAYS use super but as no stations had super I was fooked lol, therefore an expensive repair
Sorry I got wrong end of the stick.
However I was under the impression from reading comments from well known tuners that the 98 Ron fuel contained additives for cars that increased detonation likelyhood in 2 strokes ?
Re: Malossi 210 pinging in mid range
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:15 am
by Norrie Bodge
bogs wrote:Set up is malossi ported barrel and matched case transfers , 16' ignition , 1.25 mm squish, jl pipe and standard carb.
It pings its head off at about 6000 rpm, so mid throttle in 4 th.
I've tried with 140 air corrector and be4 in carb as been advised but tbh the 140 makes it 4 stroke.
Any ideas of how to stop pinging would be appreciated
read here may help ->
http://scooterotica.org/forum/viewtopic ... 40#p199440
& listen to the video in post #1 helps you understand how the emulsifier/atomiser works