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nelson pk wrote: Was it a tuned Monza or was it a proper super monza that was set up properly as they are completely different. You can prove this by telling us which number kit it was as they are all marked.

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Rest my case

Why is the piston blue?

Muttley McLadd wrote:Why is the piston blue?

Because no believes it's just done 105mph!

Spanish Fly wrote:

Muttley McLadd wrote:Why is the piston blue?

Because no believes it's just done 105mph!

BOOM BOOM!!

Dono wrote:How quick some people forget I had a Super Doope Monza cheers Jon, having been one of the only people to own & ride both machines you would think I would be allowed my ten minutes

nelson pk wrote: Was it a tuned Monza or was it a proper super monza that was set up properly as they are completely different. You can prove this by telling us which number kit it was as they are all marked.

Dono wrote:Rest my case

It wasn't a Super Monza at all, case rested...
http://scooterotica.org/forum/viewtopic ... 10&t=21409

The thread was corrected back then as well, so some confusion here perhaps?

Dono wrote:

nelson pk wrote: Was it a tuned Monza or was it a proper super monza that was set up properly as they are completely different. You can prove this by telling us which number kit it was as they are all marked.

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You said you have owned a super monza and an RB and you know what they are both like.
You havent owned a super monza. You had a monza which is completely different a super monza has different port timings, a triple exhaust port, different port angles, different reed valve , different reed manifold. The only way you can turn a normal monza into a super monza is to melt the monza down and put the metal into the super monza casting and then take it to Charlie and have it blueprinted.

You have not had one! Simple.
Either you are genuinely confused or you are deliberately trying to mess up this thread.

This is what I think.
Others may have come to the same or similar conclusion but no one has yet condensed it. So....

Facts.
1. SM makes a smaller number than RB on Dan & Seans rollers.
2. On flying mile day the SM goes faster than the RB.

Dyno day assumptions.
1. The RB set-up is close to optimum in terms of making a big number on a particular type of dyno.
2. The SM set-up has been determined on a different type of dyno and, possibly, for a different purpose. i.e. Road use. So it's rich and possibly retarded.


Sprint day assumptions.
1. Both bikes have jetting, ignition & gearing adjusted to suit conditions on the day. Dyno day set-up is now out the window.
2. In sprint trim the SM is now running weaker and more advanced (on the verge of det) and producing MORE power than dyno day.
3. In sprint trim the RB is potentially producing LESS power than the dyno day because real world prolonged running conditions have possibly not been replicated on the rollers.
4. Power outputs are now MUCH closer than dyno day.
5. Other factors......tyre pressure.....gust of wind.....rider had a really big dump before hand.......just tipped the balance the SM's way.

Curve ball.
1. The calculations that determine the power required for a full bodied lambretta to break the ton may well be correct. BUT is the theoretical number, the number measured on the dyno and the actual number produced on the track even close to being the same?

Da Dah!

SF

^^ Re. No.5 ..... Don't want to re-read everything but did rider body weight get a mention and what were they, roughly?

nelson pk wrote:

Adam_Winstone wrote:Mine does

Is that your long stroke muggy Adam?

I did write a longer response but technology seems to have spared you from reading that! So the basic answer...

Yes.

^^^ 5 speed Adam? If so did it run that gearing when 4 speed?

Oops, sorry if it's going OT.