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The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:48 pm
by tony
Hi Steve.
Firstly it's not mine. I photographed it at least 6 months ago for an advert.
Yes it's an ultimate kit. The barrel is the same spec as Jimmy Winters 105.6 mph motor. Jimmy had the large carb (34 dellorto)option and the various manifolds available can be seen.
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Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:32 pm
by Yanker
Spanish Fly wrote:Why doesn't the charge from each of the main transfer ports p*ss straight out it neighbouring exhaust sub port?
SF
Because
http://scooterotica.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28934
OK?
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:22 pm
by steve chapman
thanks Tony just like to keep a track on whos got what
as theres not many of us out there
as you say its not yours ,think maybee you need one

Steve
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:37 pm
by wezly
Are they in stock? Is there a waiting list to get a motor built by Charlie?
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:42 pm
by steve chapman
hi wezly i think cam lam have got most of the bits in stock but
i think you may have to wait for the engine mods and pipe ect from
charlie , but well worth the wait , imo . Steve

Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:40 pm
by nelson pk
I second that. Awesome piece of kit
Hi Steve, hope you're well! We met at Mersea island this year. Hope yours is still going nicely!
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:31 pm
by steve chapman
hi nelson pk hope your ok and the scoots runnng ok , did you manage to get it dynod, have you joined the super monza club on facebook
Steve
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:15 pm
by sydduckett
Is there a big difference between the cost of the standard kit and the ultimate version? Also is Charlie Edmonds building them all or are people buying the kit and doing the build themselves?
Ta
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:04 am
by nelson pk
Ideally get Charlie or Cam Lam or a compotent/recognised tuner/engine builder to build it but you can build it yourself as long as you stick to the recommended components, follow instructions to the letter and use torque wrenches etc and are confident in your own skills. You would need the special torque wrench adapter to torque the bottom cylinder studs down correctly as well.
The casing porting and uprated drive and flywheel bearings i got Charlie to fit as this was beyond my comfort zone as there are specific requirements to fitting these.
You would need to leak down test the engine when built or take it somewhere to do this and also get it on Charlies dyno when up and running after running on base settings for a few hundred miles.
I built mine but often phoned Charlie to make sure i was doing things correctly.
It requires a lot more than building a standard TS1 for example but the results are worth it.
P.s. Go for the works kit as its only about £100 extra and you get the all the best gaskets, fixings etc that the designer recommends
Re: The Super Monza exposed.
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:19 pm
by tony
The works or ultimate kit is what jimmy runs.
It's not got anything extra apart from the new programmable ignition that was fitted at the shootout.
The motor was optimised before on its standard varitronic. The programmable ignition allows you to stretch the band at either end.
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