EU, in or out?

[jonzo172]

Godzilla will destroy the British isles if we leave. That's from a very good source inside No.10.

We may laugh but some people believe that s**t!

[eden]

Brexit the movie, it's propaganda,
It start by planting the seed that the EU is bad and undemocratic then reinforces it. Simple & clever.

and true

And Cameron's daily apocalyptic prophecies on leaving the EU aren't propaganda?... just waiting for the "if you vote out your head will blow up" line.
The video does at least attempt to broach some of the issues people require answers to rather than spewing sensationalist doom hypotheses.

The truth is nobody knows what will happen either way but I would personally like to retain our democracy.

the part I was saying is true is the last line

the EU is bad and undemocratic

[Meds]

Agree
Cameron's scaremongering, propaganda from both sides.

[Muttley McLadd]

Godzilla will destroy the British isles if we leave. That's from a very good source inside No.10.

We may laugh but some people believe that s**t!

There was one on here a while ago. He got quite snotty about being called out on it. And I got accused of bullying!!

[Spanish Fly]

The UK's balance of payments really isn't very good. Imports far outstrip our exports. FACT.
Our ecoonomy is fragile, based on deliberately inflating property prices, easy credit and burdening our children with student debt. As long as we keep the money moving fast enough no one needs to admit that no one, including the banks actually has any. However if any spanner is thrown in the works is going to slow own the money and........we are f***d. Our economy is as non sustainable now as it was in 2008.
Like it or loathe it the EU is our biggest export market. If we turn our back on it we wil be in the s**t short term, for sure, and probably longer. Rest assured the EU will place tariffs on our exports making them uncompetitive. We really cannot afford to let the merry go round stop. Brexit will do just that.
Trade deals are going to be one way street. Rest assured we will be buying from our new trading partners when we need to be doing the opposite. Also these deals take years to set up.
Immigration. Its a problem and Turkey, possibly, joining the EU is a scary proposition but pushing the button on economic suicide is sheer lunacy.
IN - the lesser of two evils.

[jonzo172]

The UK's balance of payments really isn't very good. Imports far outstrip our exports. FACT.
Our ecoonomy is fragile, based on deliberately inflating property prices, easy credit and burdening our children with student debt. As long as we keep the money moving fast enough no one needs to admit that no one, including the banks actually has any. However if any spanner is thrown in the works is going to slow own the money and........we are f***d. Our economy is as non sustainable now as it was in 2008.
Like it or loathe it the EU is our biggest export market. If we turn our back on it we wil be in the s**t short term, for sure, and probably longer. Rest assured the EU will place tariffs on our exports making them uncompetitive. We really cannot afford to let the merry go round stop. Brexit will do just that.
Trade deals are going to be one way street. Rest assured we will be buying from our new trading partners when we need to be doing the opposite. Also these deals take years to set up.
Immigration. Its a problem and Turkey, possibly, joining the EU is a scary proposition but pushing the button on economic suicide is sheer lunacy.
IN - the lesser of two evils.

Absolutely agree with everything you said but I think voting IN is a "roll over and die" prospect.
Voting out will ultimately force us to respond, to revisit our economy and how we trade with the rest of the world.
Short term pain is inevitable in a vote OUT scenario and there will be those that will want to damage us but we should have confidence in our ability to respond and will be ultimately be stronger and better for it in the long term.

This is a "our children's children scenario".

[eden]

Absolutely agree with everything you said but I think voting IN is a "roll over and die" prospect.
Voting out will ultimately force us to respond, to revisit our economy and how we trade with the rest of the world.
Short term pain is inevitable in a vote OUT scenario and there will be those that will want to damage us but we should have confidence in our ability to respond and will be ultimately be stronger and better for it in the long term.

This is a "our children's children scenario".

eloquently put that is exactly how I see it

[Muttley McLadd]

The UK's balance of payments really isn't very good. Imports far outstrip our exports. FACT.

When was it ever not the case? I'd warrant a guess at when the country didn't have more people than it can feed itself.

[a.j]

Soppy student on the ''In or out'' debate on bbc1 last night.

''I'm voting remain because I was in France last year & if we were not in the EU, my data roaming charges would've gone up''.

[rosscla]

Careful you don't offend someone there...