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heh eheh heh
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B-Race Tuning wrote:Donnie, he may get back to you yet...... Hello pedrosoffice,



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Why oh why, if it was untouched since 1965, have you added all the vietnamese modern rubbish embellishments to it? All the non-Italian, stainless, wrong passivate bolts, wrong, new, modern speedometer etc etc? I offer £80.
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He hasn't got back to me yet though....


You have way too much time on your hands at the moment :lol:

Let us know of he gets back to you ;)
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Your not wrong about too much time doing f...all (been said before my accident and all mind you :o )
Donnie, you must be still in the running, I would take the response I recieved as a probable decline of my offer.........

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What on earth are you waffling on about if you dont like do one and go and haunt somebody else
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Darn.We are missing something here aren't we?
What's above the battery, on this untouched 1965? Come on fellas, if I'm not mistaken this could be a missing 1965 prototype for potential overseas manufacture. If the deal had come off back then perhaps it would have been an Li with 12v electrics too, and possible Electronic Ignition. Cor, see the value of Electronic GP's plummet. Of course, now the small print is sorted out the overseas re-manufacturing has kicked right off. You would have thought they'd missed the boat not launching that back in 1965 but it seems the market is still buoyant.

Still, it may be wise to let him know our thoughts so he doesn't mislead someone un-initiated. At least that way, if he was mislead and doesn't know, he can at least be aware that either there is serious concerns over the story that goes along with the scoot, OR IT'S A CROCK OF s**t.
And I may be wrong but I believed that if you have been made aware that you are mis-selling or 'possibly' mis-selling them you HAVE TO make your buyer aware or CONFIRM provenance beyond doubt... OR see you in court? (Applies to most things not just scoots. I think illegal drugs by their very nature may fall outside the scope of fraud by misrepresentation). Especially if this and ebay messages could confirm he knew BEFORE close of sale, I would suggest. Perhaps. LOL.
I hope I'm pointing it out/ potentially protecting a prospective naive buyer who may then join our throng (that does sound 'rude'), and I hope that it's a non-scooterist trying to sell it and therefore genuinely doesn't know it's tat or is trying to rip of a potential/ fellow enthusiast.
On close physical inspection it may be a good scoot with tat on it. Still isn't over £2k with all docs IMHO. S
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I felt, as it's still early (time?), I really should. So I did.

"Our general consensus on the Scooterotica Members site is that there is way too much modern stainless of vietnamese origin (footboard protectors, footboard strips, rear mudflap, sebring carrier, toolbox door lock, lever pivot bolt colour, stainless fork buffer bolts, ignition switch, chromey dome nuts, engine breather etc.etc.) or non original pattern parts fitted (Li Lambrettas NEVER were fitted with a 120 speedo) that Either you have been misled when you bought it or you're trying to offload vietnamese crap. Might be worth passing on to any keen purchaser, now you are aware, mind. Especially if the new owner then joins the Scooterotica forum and it comes back on you. Not trolling per se, more amused/ and or concerned for your sake if you really didn't know. Won't take my offer then? To be fair I wouldn't either, it's got to be worth £500-1k with the paperwork. Regards."

There is a "prototype' Land Rover 90 chassis for sale on Ebay where the seller openly states that he's cut out the chassis number and plated it. and that its alright because "It's never been registered on the road". Eh? With 90's being stolen daily (2 in Tavistock on the same day last month, it doesn't help we are close to Plymouth/ docks/ export), I wonder what Mr. Plod/ VOSA/ DVLA would say to that at the side of the road on an inspection? Can't be right can it. That one at last look was at £500ish. New legit galvanised chassis with correct paperwork, £1550. (Bit of a thread drift there, sorry).
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I've have had a reply that asks me two questions that I intend to reply to, mainly due to yoof attitude in the reply, that in truth could be a 50 year old that is a tad wound up with me. You should never assume anything, but my "yoof" comment is purely based on the use of some words. It may be that lingo just hasn't caught on/ up with us in Devon yet :lol:



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Based on earlier comments, I think I'll reply to that :twisted: . Well, it's fun, I've got the time, he's replying (should that be 'bitten' so what DOES he know) and may save someone innocent several THOUSANDS of pounds.
It's had TWELVE offers. Gee, I hope they're ALL around the £1k-1.5K mark.
Reply to follow.

But I WILL take bets on closest response. Nothing like making some sport to keep me fit :P
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Chris, thankyou for giving me something to occupy my time with.
I've exhausted, but got everything I set out to achieve from, Devon County Council, West Devon Borourough Council, Planning, Tom Tom Sat Nav Company (that was a tough cookie to beat), I applied to Micheal Parkinsons life insurance company who said as I wasn't over 50 I didn't qualify (50 this year). So I have then had to contact them about 20 times to get my free Parker Pen. It does NOT state you have to be eligible to enquire, and your supposed to get it "Just for enquiring". I got it. :lol: Might be the prize for closest response from the Ebay seller. Oh, can't, Mrs gave it to grandson for school.
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Re: Details about the item: 775063 sent a message about Lambretta Li 150 #181694277339

A VERY carefully worded response that doesn't lie, and has no specific inferences. I and many others can and will relate to all jargon here, in particular any dealer (Scooter, not the drugs again!). And well done all members of the Scooterotica forum for unwittingly becoming part of what is the "International Lambretta Authenticity Group". (Can we have a patch made up?)

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<textarea name="message" id="message" cols="40" rows="5"></textarea>You've asked me two questions, and ask me to "Jog On".
I am part of the International Lambretta Authenticity Group that scrutinise and advise potential customers, public bodies, insurance companies and legal bodies on ALL things Lambretta (It is a trade mark you know).
What I am "waffling on about" is it would appear from your photographs and associated description (and optimistic self valuation) that it is trying to be sold as something that it clearly is not. Any purchaser could be entitled to take you to court if purchased based on the information you supply them that you know, OR SUSPECT, to be false.
As We have deemed it right to inform you of our concerns by way of this Ebay messaging service, there is now a written dialogue that confirms that there is "Serious doubt" to the authenticity of the provenance of this vehicle AND that you are now aware. Could you please advise the winning purchaser prior to any costs incurred by them (travelling, etc.) and financial or title exchange.
A copy of these exchanges are stored (anonymously, but with the listing details as these are free to the public view) on our Data Base, and members viewing forum.
I will now endeavour to "Jog On".
Regards. S
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That last bit I'm struggling with :(
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I have had replies, plural.

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"This has already been seen by the lambretta board and has the correct paperwork to prove it ... I think you are very jealous and to take the steps of reporting my advert like this is just down right degrading."
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3rd response; ReplyNew message from: pedrosoffice (196)
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"What on earth gives you the impression that I am trying to con somebody - this bike has been seen by a lambretta specialist I have the documents to prove it - but guess what you'll never see it now"
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I believe it has sold. Would the Lambretta Board member make himself known so we can question and ridicule please. I believe I may not see it again as it's oop north from here, and possibly doesn't run, doesn't say it does ("it's been stood for 50 years, whaddya expect!").
I think he may have struck a chord with me, perhaps I AM jealous. Not to self, 'Either buy in 50 'nam Lambrettas for £1200 and flog with paperwork from the "Lambretta Board" by a Lambretta Specialist (Oh, that could be ME), OR stick together some shoddy bikes from stock, dress with the tat my customers give me to weigh in and... kerchinnnggg. £60,000k/pa pure profit. LOL.

I was going to leave it there.... but
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Sorry if I hijacked this Chris, but it may have helped someone and I seem to have some time on my hands.
I did reply but can't cut/paste.
It read along the lines of;

"If you've sold it within the UK, Western Europe or the USA then I think I may see it a lot sooner than you think.
Could you supply me with the details of "The Lambretta Board" and the Lambretta Specialist that is quoted on the paperwork you have please, so we can get some of our scooters checked over please. Good luck. Regards, S

I do so hope he does, and it'll be from the LCGB in the form of a NOVA/ dating certificate :roll:
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The guys obviously knows he's scamming from the way he's answered the questions. Iv posted as well and also fobbed him into ebay. With only 6 hours to go it's unlikely I'll get a reply but we live in hope...lol
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