Perhaps you can point them out to me next time i race 3 sisters......my leg would be very pleased!Avantone wrote:...... I spent the majority of the race tucked up close behind Keith Terry desperately trying not to lose touch down the straight and discovered some much quicker lines through the infield (off the obvious, but slippery-when-wet racing lines)......
It wasn't until Ralph Saxelby took his hook!tony wrote:Well hi Dave. Things move on. Come and watch..A group 4 machine shouldnt be winning outright should it in the 'traditional' way of thinking? Smallframe vespas setting outright scooter lap records on the full cadwell circuit on its second outing? Tuned by the same man.
I wouldnt dispute the figures. They are correct.
Mmmmmmm . . . I could have understood that had I not been saying the same thing for years, when DJ definitely wouldn't have seen it. There's way more in his book than meets the eye on a quick skim through, and my yellow and white LI special wasn't quick because I have any special talent for tuning, it was all out of that book.Muttley McLadd wrote:Let the ass kissing commence.Special X wrote:Wow!!! DJ on here. Anyone who knows me will be aware that He's my hero!
I'm going to laugh when it's exposed as a wind up.
Will the real Dawn Milen please stand up?
WOW! Well........ and yes that really is TRUE. I'd totally forgotten. I'm just racking my brain to try and remember the why's and the wherefors, but yes, that really did happen! It wasn't at all "planned" but I (ahem) shall we say "loitered" on the track at the start (I really can't remember why, maybe I'll have to dig out the race results to jog my memory!). Anyway, something happened, and I was suddenly "recovered"..... and whoopee dooooo! They restarted the race! Kinda makes up for one Donnington Park "loop" event a couple of seasons before. Grp2 & Grp3 combined arrived on the line, it was an EMSA event, and they had a new girl as start marshal. She had no idea at all. Not the least!. Not even a glimpse of an idea! Now, on the very few occasions when I started a race, I'd stand full in the middle of the track, and raise the flag high, holding the bottom with my spare hand. Then I'd GLARE! Yes GLARE!!!! Grrrrr! Grrrrrrrrr! At those poxy bast**rd riders who would suffer a fate much worse than a slow agonising painful death if they so much as THOUGHT about a jump start in MY race. I'd walk off the track, turn, and then SUDDENLY drop that flag. No if's and buts, GONE! A succesful start. But not this poor little girlie at Donnington. She was too embarrased and thought it was a great giggle. With a slight flicker of a flourish, she SORT of MAYBE waved it a bit, maybe sort of twitched her arm, like a little spasm? Or a mini twitch. Some went. Some didn't. Steve Ives stopped just up the track, wondering what the hell was going on. Terry Frankland, looking behind to SEE what the hell was WAS going on, then ran in the back of him and went flying. I sat there. What a shambles. I switched off the motor, and just sat there. Waiting for the restart. The must happen restart that quite OBVIOUSLY was going to happen. Then an official walked out saying " If you can't start your scooter can you please get it off the track please?" There was slowly a realisation dawning. Maybe like a Baldrick type slow burning Really Cunning Plan. The sort of realisation, that to have an argument in the middle of the track about whether the race had actually started...... or not, while the rest of the race now seemed to be taking place, maybe wasn't such a good idea....... I don't think I QUITE won that race!tony wrote:Now I've a great one.. and I Know Dave will probably shoot me.. thats if he remembers who I am.. but Pembrey around 1989(?) (i'm sure it was pembrey) and basically soemthing happens on the start and Mr Webster here, lies on the track almost DEAD! Anyway even if he gets up he has no chance of catching up so the unconcious dave uses his head and lies still.. the race is of course stopped and miraculously Mr Webbo recovers to go off and win (i think!)
now thats a race brain..
Not actually true special X. Check the results mate.Special X wrote:It wasn't until Ralph Saxelby took his hook!tony wrote:Well hi Dave. Things move on. Come and watch..A group 4 machine shouldnt be winning outright should it in the 'traditional' way of thinking? Smallframe vespas setting outright scooter lap records on the full cadwell circuit on its second outing? Tuned by the same man.
I wouldnt dispute the figures. They are correct.
Btw Mr S said he was beating them all with aprox 25 bhp and loadsa torque. Given how low revving that bike is it's probably true.
The fact that Ralph is old enough to be Charlie's dad, only rides now and then, and is on a bike built over fifteen years ago is nothing to do with it then?tony wrote: The fact that Edmonds is anywhere near is amazing, but to win outright is a remarkable achievement.
My wife would get so mad at me, when I would click on the nightstand lamp in the middle of the night, to review a passage in the tuning manual. It was like the book of Revelation in the missing lambretta bible. For my generation we are most defiantly indebted to your kindness for sharing you insight on what you have encountered and tried to explain. And the price of the book was an act of charity. So thanks for enriching our minds with the possibilities. You now have an army of mad mad men. At your disposalSpecial X wrote:Mmmmmmm . . . I could have understood that had I not been saying the same thing for years, when DJ definitely wouldn't have seen it. There's way more in his book than meets the eye on a quick skim through, and my yellow and white LI special wasn't quick because I have any special talent for tuning, it was all out of that book.Muttley McLadd wrote:Let the ass kissing commence.Special X wrote:Wow!!! DJ on here. Anyone who knows me will be aware that He's my hero!
I'm going to laugh when it's exposed as a wind up.
Will the real Dawn Milen please stand up?
Muttley McLadd wrote:The fact that Ralph is old enough to be Charlie's dad, only rides now and then, and is on a bike built over fifteen years ago is nothing to do with it then?tony wrote: The fact that Edmonds is anywhere near is amazing, but to win outright is a remarkable achievement.
I'd expect half the pack to be ahead of Ralph, considering they're all half his age on newly built machines.
