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Hi all
I have a lambretta chopper with a vespa t5 engine bgm rectifier to convert to dc and charge the battery.
Was going to run front light on ac and rest on dc but now going all dc.
I am restricted in room to hide battery so need to know what amp battery would be needed.
I have led rear light. koso lcd speedo and the head light is twin 12v 55w bulbs one for main beam.
Could change bulbs to 35w
May have to link 2 small batterys together to get the amp rate.
Fitting battery to make koso clocks run right just dont want to run battery low with lights running
Cheers ;)
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You have few things going on here. Battery the largest amp hour you can get in whatever space you have.
From your question the biggest bit is going for full DC. Unless the stator of your Vespa can be modified to output Full DC like the Wassell your BGM is only a trickle charger. Not enough to stop the bucket from draining. The Wassell converts the stator from AC to DC I don't know if you can do this to a vespa. Keeping your headlight AC would help. As would leds keeping the battery for your gauges.
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I would be possible to convert to full DC and would require a small mod to the stator to disconnect the lighting earth wire and connect it to an additional lighting wire. (PX/T5 stator is very similar to Lambretta). BUT, your stator won't be able to produce any more than about 70 watts which is not enough to power 2 x 55 watt headlamp bulbs. Using a decent capacity battery (7 Aph) would give enough battery power to light to headlamp on full beam but only for as long as it took the battery to discharge (probably about 30 minutes or so) as the limited stator output is not enough to charge the battery as quickly as it discharges...or to use Monty's analogy, the hole in the bucket is bigger than the hole that it's filled by ;) That could work if you only do short trips that require little use of full beam and you are able to re-charge the battery from the mains on a regular basis but otherwise not.

You really need to rethink your headlight arrangement, 2x 35 watts would work in theory but you would only have the power needed when the engine was revving fairly fast (maybe around 4-4.5k or more) below that the main is going to be progressively dim if you used AC for the headlight but with a DC conversion the power would last a bit longer.

It might be an idea to look at the twin LED Spots that Knowledge has fitted to his GP in place of the headlamp, they are apparently very bright and require a fraction of the power of filament lamps, these are similar http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125W-Motorcyc ... 3a95d0f5b2
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Put head light on battery and used multimeter on it
Got 4amps to run just one 55w bulb :o
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110 watts at 12v is around 9 amps plus factor in other bits and pieces and you're looking at a total draw of say 12 amps. A 12 amp hour battery will last about an hour with no charging, trickle won't be enough to keep up with that.


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What about if I change the h3 55w to a 20w
And run that on ac
And put clocks and rear led on battery 12v 2.4 amp
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If you are a glass half full type and not half empty, the bucket analogy can help you get your head around it but its not as strait forward. Yes you have a bucket with a hole in it but you also have a hose trying to fill it at shall we use Coasters 70 watts. Thats assuming decent revs and is enough for 1 lamp plus some top up. Your bucket is now only having to make up the difference when you have both lights on. Yes it will run out but it will take longer with the engine running and limited full beam. so with the numbers already quoted it could have a shortfall of 40watts (3.3amps) your battery would last 3.5 hours. soon be morning :mrgreen:
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crispin wrote:What about if I change the h3 55w to a 20w
And run that on ac
And put clocks and rear led on battery 12v 2.4 amp
That should work but a 20 watt dipped beam is going to be a bit pathetic tbh :?
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What about h3 led go all dc
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