af or sip rims

[soulsurfer]

ive got the sip ones, got the rear done ok but had to abort the front yesterday as i couldn't get the hub studs undone on scootrs disk brake, anyone got any tips on getting these undone? couldn't get socket in so tried with spanner plenty of bloodied knuckles later threw a strop, swore a lot, kicked things and left it.

Use the two nut method from the other side

[gunnerdaz]

Use the two nut method from the other side

thanks. will give that a go

[corrado]

I wouldn't attempt to remove the studs on the scootrs hub until I'd removed the disc itself so that I could get a ground flat socket onto them.

[Muttlyoo7]

I also agree,but correct me if im wrong the wheel nuts on a car/single sided swing arm are conical at the mating surfaces thus centralizing the rim to hub by taking up exessive play
On scooter rims they are not just bog standard nuts/washers

When I fitted the AF rims, to ensure the rim is centralised I propped up the scooter so that the wheels were clear of the ground. Then with the nuts tightened up by hand, spun the wheel to check the rim was located centrally. Once happy I torqued the nuts up. Both rims went on with no problems and required no centralising. I think this was mostly due to the close tolerance between the special nuts supplied with the rims and the recessed slots they fit in on the rim.
Lets face it AF wouldn't design them on the back of a fag packet. If they were a flawed design, and that resulted in serious injury or a death then they'd get sued into bankruptcy.

[junkyard]

Lets face it AF wouldn't design them on the back of a fag packet. If they were a flawed design, and that resulted in serious injury or a death then they'd get sued into bankruptcy.

Wasn`t surggesting for one moment mate their was a flaw in AF designs,but was just giving my opinion on the question asked as you have also done, so i gave why i Personally perfer the SIP rims over the AF rims and nothing more

Cheers

[roadrunnerian]

thanks all for your inputs looks like its sip then thanks ian

[shocky]

I also agree,but correct me if im wrong the wheel nuts on a car/single sided swing arm are conical at the mating surfaces thus centralizing the rim to hub by taking up exessive play
On scooter rims they are not just bog standard nuts/washers

When I fitted the AF rims, to ensure the rim is centralised I propped up the scooter so that the wheels were clear of the ground. Then with the nuts tightened up by hand, spun the wheel to check the rim was located centrally. Once happy I torqued the nuts up. Both rims went on with no problems and required no centralising. I think this was mostly due to the close tolerance between the special nuts supplied with the rims and the recessed slots they fit in on the rim.
Lets face it AF wouldn't design them on the back of a fag packet. If they were a flawed design, and that resulted in serious injury or a death then they'd get sued into bankruptcy.

the vast majority of stuff ive had let got in the last 10 yrs was AF derived . cranks and several rapido barrels were the rings snagged the outlet port and dont even get me started on tapered bores with 1 thou at the bottom anf 5 thou at the top or 2 thou all the way through still never herd that befor

[Muttlyoo7]

I also agree,but correct me if im wrong the wheel nuts on a car/single sided swing arm are conical at the mating surfaces thus centralizing the rim to hub by taking up exessive play
On scooter rims they are not just bog standard nuts/washers

When I fitted the AF rims, to ensure the rim is centralised I propped up the scooter so that the wheels were clear of the ground. Then with the nuts tightened up by hand, spun the wheel to check the rim was located centrally. Once happy I torqued the nuts up. Both rims went on with no problems and required no centralising. I think this was mostly due to the close tolerance between the special nuts supplied with the rims and the recessed slots they fit in on the rim.
Lets face it AF wouldn't design them on the back of a fag packet. If they were a flawed design, and that resulted in serious injury or a death then they'd get sued into bankruptcy.

the vast majority of stuff ive had let got in the last 10 yrs was AF derived . cranks and several rapido barrels were the rings snagged the outlet port and dont even get me started on tapered bores with 1 thou at the bottom anf 5 thou at the top or 2 thou all the way through still never herd that befor

I too had a Rapido barrel rom AF with insuficient clearance even though I'd asked them to check it. However I've also had a lot of good quality stuff from them over the years too! Did you ever get back to them about the stuff you bought that let you down? and if so, did they help you or offer to replace or repair the said items?

[shocky]

i did yes but tbh id lost faith in them by then and the cranks went to readspead to be straightened yam rod and tig welded the cylinders went to local re borer and had a suzuki ts 250 piston with first oversize and a head reprofile was pretty much sorted after that other rapido was bored to 70mm and had a mahle piston with fat cast rings and a ts1 head again was good as gold ran a 24 mm pwk , with the price of postage etc it really wasnt worth the hassle id rather someone who new what the f@@k they were doing.
looking at it i think they have finally cottoned on to the WWW/forums and HAVE POLISHED UP THERE ACT RE CUSTOMER SERVICE there a little dig in the polish for those who remember

[LI150]

Not sure how true it is but was told that SIP and AF Rims come out the same Factory