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Engine number
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:29 am
by Ancillotti
A mate is restoring an un-registered Lammy but the GT engine casing he has, lost its number (all of it) back when the 125 law came in and people were paranoid about getting stopped with "200" written on their engine casing. He is concerned that this may cause problems when having the scooter inspected.
Dose anyone know how to 'legalise' this engine, or is it to forever remain illegal scrap?
Re: Engine number
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:46 pm
by Soulpunk
i have a genuine 125cc casing with correct numbers.
i would swop in case of emergency.
why not stamping another number in it, a tv3 number which is gone ?
Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:27 am
by Ancillotti
I think he's got a spare 150 casing, but doesn't want to build up an engine just for the inspection.
why not stamping another number in it, a tv3 number which is gone ?
This sounds feasible although a bit dodgy as it's about to be inspected.
I suppose the next problem is how do you find out this "gone" number?
Has anyone got a TV3 engine that is beyond repair with available number?
Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:38 pm
by soullad
An engine case with no number is exactly that. Even if you wanted to stamp your own number, how are you going to do the raised stars etc. Whats to stop me or anyone grinding off a new indian GP200 number and then doing as you are doing. Might seem irrelevant until you come to sell your original genuine TV200 with matching numbers and its 6 grand price tag. Oh and how much for one with an Indian gp200 engine - £4000?
Thats why there aren't many TV3 engines that are beyond repair...hell you could almost have a NOS one recast for the crazy money they go for on ebay
Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:12 pm
by Doom Patrol
Certainly don't scrap it. If it's a good case it's a good case and the engine doesn't govern the identity of the scooter. So it's not illegal. The only grey area might be if what is stamped on there contradicts the capacity of the engine and what appears on the log book. Then you might come a cropper if you have an accident and the insurance get involved. I think you are at liberty to stamp on there whatever you want. But just don't get carried away.

Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:18 pm
by Mel K
You should just stamp your phone number on it.That way it has a number that can be put on the log book and is not ringed from another engine and no-one can be fooled. :bald:
Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:28 pm
by oldbiker
J1MS once suggested 4Q4Q4Q
Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:34 pm
by Mel K
Re: Engine number
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:37 pm
by Doom Patrol
tzr.steve wrote:J1MS once suggested 4Q4Q4Q
Please. SX200 * 4Q4Q4Q

Re: Engine number
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:18 pm
by dirtyhandslopez
You could get a friendly copper to take it away and have it x-rayed to find out what the original number was, then re-stamp that number.
I know they can do that. Got spopped in a combo once with an engine case with no numbers("L" plate days), they wanted to impound the lot and check for engine number. Talked them into following me home and waiting till I dropped the motor and gave it to them to take away. Then, after they left, promtly dropped another motor in it and took the back roads for a while until the unstamped engine returned, with an accompanining piece of paper saying it wasn't stolen and with the right motor number on it. Thanks officers
