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help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:34 pm
by leehuggy72
poured the petrol in.. turned the ignition.. and then tried kicking her off
1. is the kickstart normally so hard to kick off, compression is so hard
2. checked the spark, mines sparking but not massively..
3. while kicking off and then checking to see if fuel is reaching the barrel, i've noticed hardly any fuel in the manifold
what i'm i doing wrong
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:52 pm
by Killkenny
Lee, take off the stand, straddle the beast,lean as far over to the left as possible(so you can maximise k/start travel in 1 kick) turn fuel on,choke on,throttle open.and kick about 10 times, it should try to fire,if it does then turn petrol off and do the same but with full throttle,then NO throttle
If it dosnt show any sign of wanting to start after repeating a few times then take it to your nearest Innocenti Service Station (as per their Innocenti Promo film)
good luck fella!!
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:16 pm
by leehuggy72
Killkenny wrote:Lee, take off the stand, straddle the beast,lean as far over to the left as possible(so you can maximise k/start travel in 1 kick) turn fuel on,choke on,throttle open.and kick about 10 times, it should try to fire,if it does then turn petrol off and do the same but with full throttle,then NO throttle
If it dosnt show any sign of wanting to start after repeating a few times then take it to your nearest Innocenti Service Station (as per their Innocenti Promo film)
good luck fella!!
i've done this mate many times

Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:03 pm
by lee b
i always find having a spare plug too,just incase the one in the engine gets wet.
another trick i used to do with my old 490 crosser was to warm the plug up on the gas hob,it stinks the house out,but hey if it makes it easier to start then i was doing it!!!
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:06 pm
by minotaur
pour a little fuel directly in the spark plug hole, put plug back in and kick
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:14 pm
by leehuggy72
lee b wrote:i always find having a spare plug too,just incase the one in the engine gets wet.
another trick i used to do with my old 490 crosser was to warm the plug up on the gas hob,it stinks the house out,but hey if it makes it easier to start then i was doing it!!!
minotaur wrote:pour a little fuel directly in the spark plug hole, put plug back in and kick
i've done this as well
carbs been stripped and cleaned...
its as if it wants to start, as in firing, but doesn't follow thru...
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:02 pm
by Skar
I'm no expert mate but if this is a rebuilt motor this would be my first concern, how hard is hard?
leehuggy72 wrote:1. is the kickstart normally so hard to kick off, compression is so hard
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:07 pm
by leehuggy72
without the plug in the barrel it turns over fine...
once i put the plug back in you can feel the compression fighting against your foot.
it does kick over but its dam hard (resistance)..

Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:38 pm
by dapper
Is it a tuned engine or has it recently had a rebore? I ask because the ring gap and piston to bore clearance may be too tight. You don't say whether you are on points or electronic. You say you're getting a spark, but is it a strong spark? Have you checked your gap correctly and made sure your points gap is correctly set (if points fitted). Have you checked your squish? A bit more info would help.
Re: help starting it up
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:41 pm
by sean brady scooters
leehuggy72 wrote:without the plug in the barrel it turns over fine...
once i put the plug back in you can feel the compression fighting against your foot.
it does kick over but its dam hard (resistance)..

just get a grown up to kick it off for you.........
