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Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:52 pm
by Mag
I've been scootering for 24 years and still every so often I experience something that makes me feel like an exited teenager, seeing or experiencing something new. Yesterday I had one of those experiences.

I took my TS1 engine to Doncaster thinking that it would be stuck on the dyno, Mark and Max would say "it needs X" and it would be done and I'd return job done. No, what happened (at least to a non engineer like me) was a revelation into the depth of knowledge and methodical approach needed to queeze effective power from an engine. I say effective because my starting point was a good, tractable motor with a nice, even spread of power and I know I could increase HP easily but posibly destroy any driving pleasure.

Starting point is an MB stage 1 TS1 70mm with alpha 60mm crank, race tour piston, indian GP box with 19/46 and early racetour stainless exhaust. This is the set up I used for the Coast to Coast this year. Following is the dyno graph for my engine as it arrived at the shop.
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So, I'm told the power curve is very smooth and both Max and Mark and maybe we should leave it alone. Apparently on TS graphs it is usual to have a drop in power as it progresses through the lower revs, but mine doesn't have it. Stupid me says "I want more power" and think that's all there is to it. 7 hours later and the magical result is this...
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Torque still at 19, but slightly wider spread. Power slightly less low down, increasing higher up and sustaining much higher revs.
Intresting was to compare with an RB225 with JL4 exhaust. As you can see I've got more power, torque and a better spread of both. To say I'm happy is an understatement.
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So to sum up, thanks Max and Mark. Fab day and fabulous result!

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:04 pm
by soulsurfer
Very nice, what was actually done to achieve this? Was it expensive?

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:11 pm
by Mag
you're asking Mr not technical but here I go. Different packing plates and head gaskets to try moving the port timings. Also the exhaust port was opened further. Then the transfers altered. All was done stage by stage and recorded. Every change was dyno'd before moving on to the next alteration.

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:40 pm
by Adspeed
Great post Mag this is what I like!!!!

Its great to see ya pride and joy being ragged isn't it!!??!! :o

Although top figures have increased it seems to be at the expence of the low to mid. With the gains only in excess of 7k (although it is hard to see on my old laptop!!).

How has the alterations changed the way ya motor rides? Or the way you ride ya motor if ya know what I mean? :D

Great to see Dynos getting posted more and more regular on here!! 8-)

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:32 am
by Mag
It was only done yesterday so I haven't even had the chance to drop the motor back in the frame yet. Rest assured when its back together I'll be updating you.

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:37 am
by Adspeed
Nice one Mag. :D

When they dynoed ya engine did they do it in a donar bike or a JIG like JB Tuning doo sometimes?

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:51 am
by Avantone
Mag wrote:you're asking Mr not technical but here I go. Different packing plates and head gaskets to try moving the port timings. Also the exhaust port was opened further. Then the transfers altered. All was done stage by stage and recorded. Every change was dyno'd before moving on to the next alteration.
Wow, 7 hours ............... that's a lot of fettling and dyno time - bet it wasn't cheap :shock:

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:23 pm
by Mag
Avantone wrote: Wow, 7 hours ............... that's a lot of fettling and dyno time - bet it wasn't cheap :shock:
Er, I'd rather not get into that. Spouse maybe watching :roll:

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:43 pm
by goldeneye
ANNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE"S SPENT THE HOUSEKEEPING AGAIN!!!!!!!! :lol:

Re: Day spent on MB Dyno

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:27 pm
by Mag
goldeneye wrote:ANNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE"S SPENT THE HOUSEKEEPING AGAIN!!!!!!!! :lol:
Jeff, I knew I could rely on you to keep it quiet! ;)