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What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:45 am
by immylam
Just as a matter of interest , what speed can be expected from various kits ( from the fantastic to the realistic ;) ) Any speedo
I have an RT 225 with 30 mil dellorto and Scootopia exhaust( PROBABLY HOLDS IT BACK A BIT) - does 65 along the flat and 70 down hill on jet 200
RB225 5 Speed 35mmtmx and franspeed - 70 along flat - 80 downhill.

I could possibly squeeze another couple of MPH out of both scooters ...but drive on the cautious side of my repair budget. :0

had a Rapio 225 with ancilotti and was getting 60- 65 which I was a bit disappointed with. (changed for RT - faster and 1/2 better fuel consumption)

I know these are subjective and speed is usually exaggerated or speedo's not accurate etc but what speeds are folks roughly getting from kitted scooters without over the top gearing/tuning etc

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:58 pm
by paul d
Casa 185 with scootopia 22 carb, af clubman and a gp150 box with a 17 sprocket, 59mph up a mountain or down dale. Very economical and more economy than standard. GT240 with 30mm carb, pm25 exhaust, 17x46 li box, gps at 76mph while coming back from a rally fully loaded. Too windy so I slowed down but it would go faster if a man was brave enough! I’ve never ridden the GT flat out. Great kit. Both kits capable of covering big road for as long as your shoulders would last....

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:14 pm
by Burnside
GT186, Li150 16/16 60/110 crank, PHBH30, Fran Race, will cruise 65mph comfortably and I have clocked high 70's in favourable conditions whilst fully loaded with rally gear.

GT200, Li150 17/16, 58/107 crank, PHBH30, BGM clubman, similar speed to the above but have hit the low 80's.

All speeds from my Garmin Forerunner which is pretty accurate.

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:16 pm
by LI150
Tuned ts230 highest gps speed of 83

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:46 pm
by mick1
Standard Avanti 225 with Franspeed Race and TMX35, fully loaded: GPS 84mph .......only done it once but hit the 80mph on more than one occasion.

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:38 pm
by GTFOMWSC
Monza 230 70mph cruising had id at just over 80 a few times.Super Monza 230 built on misano case and crank cruises 75mph taken it to 86 there's more but i back it down as i don't want to push it home.

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:32 pm
by rosscla
RT 225 BGM SX gears topped out about 68 at 6.9K RPM

Avanti, Fran Race GP box 19/46 not had it flat out but had to roll off at 73 as I was near in the back of a car and still accelerating

Speeds from Garmin GPS

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:47 pm
by purple_pill67
Interested to know what the rest of the set up is for the RT
Have an RT225 with phbh28, jet-sx gearing 16/46 and 62mm crank.
Bgmv v4 is holding it back I feel.
rosscla wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:32 pm RT 225 BGM SX gears topped out about 68 at 6.9K RPM

Avanti, Fran Race GP box 19/46 not had it flat out but had to roll off at 73 as I was near in the back of a car and still accelerating

Speeds from Garmin GPS

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:19 pm
by Hughieboy
GT186, 17/46, 30mm PHBH, TSR Evo, 58/116 crank/rod, had it to about 65 with some left but have been struggling to get it to rev high enough as discussed elsewhere on here. Would probably top 70 as it is I’m guessing.

Re: What Speed From What Kit? (ballpark)

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:09 pm
by rosscla
purple_pill67 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:47 pm Interested to know what the rest of the set up is for the RT
Have an RT225 with phbh28, jet-sx gearing 16/46 and 62mm crank.
Bgmv v4 is holding it back I feel.
rosscla wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:32 pm RT 225 BGM SX gears topped out about 68 at 6.9K RPM

Avanti, Fran Race GP box 19/46 not had it flat out but had to roll off at 73 as I was near in the back of a car and still accelerating

Speeds from Garmin GPS
RT is BGM V4 exhaust with 30PHBH standard GP crank - it was running white rich and I could never get it jetted down to a 'good' plug colour for some reason - was running p50, AV264, X7, s40, m125, c70, n300 on a BGM filter and manifold. Pretty much built off the manual.

I have to admit I need to do another couple of stone of tuning ... I probably was expecting a bit more from it but honestly most of the time we run at about 55 - 60 and it's not stressed at that. If I get a chance I'm going to get an RM clubman next.

I've also just shagged it in Ireland after 2.5k miles because of fitting a new mild steel tank and obviously not washing it out properly - I ran the petrol through a filter and it was full of fine grit and that was after about 100 litres through it - rings and bore goosed - gap about 5mm so it's off being replated