Scooterotica

Hi all,

Who is using which regulator with the higher output stators that are available these days? I am aware that the BGM stator is capable of putting out 120W but that most of the traditional Vespa type regulators put out 80W, with 'high output' similar items being listed as 96W output. I can only assume that the BGM regulator will handle the 120W output from the stator, however, I've had a couple of people suggesting that the BGM regulators are not as reliable, long-term, as the traditional Vespa type item (NB: hearsay but I do listen to the undercurrent, although taking it with a pinch of salt). This leaves me wondering what other options might be out there?

What are people using reliably, the BGM supplied regulator, the 96W type and simply sacrificing 1/4 or their potential output, other?

Cheers in advance.

Adam

PS - Please note that this is not intended to start an anti-BGM thread, I run and really like a number of their products, but would like any objective information regarding what people are reliably running for higher output, whether that product be BGM or not. Ta

Maybe look at the Wassel unit.

I tend to equate the Wassel units with DC (wash your mouth out!!!) but have noticed that they seem to have AC output option and the ability to handle the wattage.

Anyone running one reliably with higher output AC?

Ta

Adam

what on earth do you want AC for, you can't do a lot with it?

Having had both on various scoots over the years, DC IMO is simply one more thing to go wrong and to maintain, whereas you park up a scoot with 12V AC electronic ignition and go back to it after 3 years sitting at the back of the garage and it starts perfectly, without having to keep a battery charged or worry about oxidisation of terminals, etc. For the IMO very small benefit of a non-rpm related power source, DC isn't worth the time or effort.

K.I.S.S.



PS - But each to their own.

Adam_Winstone wrote:Having had both on various scoots over the years, DC IMO is simply one more thing to go wrong and to maintain, whereas you park up a scoot with 12V AC electronic ignition and go back to it after 3 years sitting at the back of the garage and it starts perfectly, without having to keep a battery charged or worry about oxidisation of terminals, etc. For the IMO very small benefit of a non-rpm related power source, DC isn't worth the time or effort.

K.I.S.S.



PS - But each to their own.

But you don't HAVE to run a battery with a DC Wassel system Adam, The lights and horn will work just the same without a battery. I'm still running both of the wassels I bought several years ago with no issue.

coaster wrote: But you don't HAVE to run a battery with a DC Wassel system Adam, The lights and horn will work just the same without a battery. I'm still running both of the wassels I bought several years ago with no issue.

Exactly.

If I may mention "bike" for a moment, some makes\models have had regulator problems - Triumph for one - and people are swopping out the original rec\reg for a mosfet based one. The story is that they are kinder to the stator, because they don't dump all the unused current. They use jiggery pokery to control current.
The story goes they also charge better at lower revs, and more stable at higher outputs. Increased reliability too. Plug and play with most modern bikes
Win win so far.
The downside is they don't cost £30. But the real ones (beware of knock-offs) are properly made.

Shindengen FH020AA is the most used one I have read about. Although much talked about in certain bike circles, I haven't heard mention here or on another scooter site.
The Yamaha P/N is 1D7-81960-00-00. There are several people selling them as kits to fit to other bike and also monster, multi amp versions, probably for welding.... to fit to your Hardly.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/165509402 ... 27940&fs=2

He also does one thats supposed to be a true 120w

purple_pill67 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/groups/165509402 ... 27940&fs=2

He also does one thats supposed to be a true 120w

Link doesn't work for me.