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Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:56 pm
by alanscottj
A long time ago a thread went on a 200 casing - it was one of the 4 cylinder stud holes. So, I helicoiled it and it lasted ages until yesterday when I was changing the cylinder head. As I was torquing up the nut the helicoil started to unscrew out of the casing! Anyhoo, I retapped it and replaced the helicoil, with fingers crossed I tightened it up and the bugger went again :roll:

Anyway, I have access to a fantastic ali welder who does stuff for me for a very reasonable price, I should have gone to him originally but hey ho! So, I'm dropping it off tomorrow for him to do his stuff. I have just got off the phone with him and he was asking me if I want him to drill and tap the hole for me. He asked if originally do they have an insert as he said it would be good practice when working with ally to put an insert in there due to the metal being relatively soft. So, my question is, do they originally have an insert or not - I can't tell by looking at the other cylinder stud holes so thought I'd ask on here. Or, does he just drill and tap it for me???

Many thanks in advance.

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:33 pm
by fluff34567
No inserts on any of the holes in my casing

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:27 pm
by alanscottj
fluff34567 wrote:No inserts on any of the holes in my casing
I didn't think there were - just wanted to confirm it. He does weld on aeroplanes though, so maybe he isn't used to the fineries of the Indian Lambretta casing :lol:

I'll just get him to drill and tap them.

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:55 pm
by fluff34567
My guy is also an NAA welder... ask him what it means ;)

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:10 pm
by alanscottj
fluff34567 wrote:My guy is also an NAA welder... ask him what it means ;)
I will :D

What is the specific tap size to use for tapping cylinder studs? Does it have to be a certain pitch?

Thanks

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:12 pm
by fluff34567
Take an old stud with you just to be sure.

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:24 pm
by Knowledge
The stud is a standard M8 (8mm diameter and 1.25mm pitch).

I would take the cylinder head and/or barrel with you, so he can drill through and be certain of getting the hole in the correct location.

Re: Engine casing question r.e. tapping new welding

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:45 pm
by alanscottj
Knowledge wrote:The stud is a standard M8 (8mm diameter and 1.25mm pitch).

I would take the cylinder head and/or barrel with you, so he can drill through and be certain of getting the hole in the correct location.
I was just going to take the barrel with me but will take the head as per your suggestion - I have an old head that he can use to drill through (don't want to scratch my new CNC head :lol: )