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Primary Drive question
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:12 am
by retrorich
Has anyone used 14-47 sprockets on Italian SX200 gearbox.
Engine is tuned Muggy 200-26PHBH with power jet and ancillotti exhaust-Varitronic Ignition
Thanks
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:40 pm
by Adam_Winstone
No, but I hope that you have a good clutch!... said as the smaller the front sprocket, the more power the clutch has to deal with, which was the reason for Innocenti going 18/47 on the GP200 as the standard clutch couldn't cope and the uprated springs of the GT200 and SX200/TV175 were making the clutch too stiff to be pleasant for many.
Tuned kit + more BHP + small front sprocket = hard life for your clutch.
Sorry if you know all this anyway, I just wanted to raise the topic in the hope that it might help avoid future issues.
Adam
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:50 pm
by retrorich
Thanks for your reply. It was not my choice of configuration however, it does have a good performance 5 plate clutch which will hopefully cope. A hard ride in 4th up hill with a head wind will prove one way or another. The only thing the clutch can thank me for is that I am only 11.5 stone
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:57 pm
by paulmgreen
What's the thinking in going for a 14 front sprocket ?
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:49 am
by retrorich
Idea was to get scooter to pull well in all gears particularly 4th as it is hilly where I live and to keep revving in a head wind. SX200 gearbox has big jump between 3-4th gears and am constantly having drop to 3rd
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:13 am
by HxPaul
You think its hilly were you live ? You should live were I live, even the sheep wear oxygen masks.
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:09 am
by Padge
I run 14/46 (5.16) on an Imola ultimate using an SX 200 box and a readspeed 5 plate clutch, which if i’m honest is a great clutch but only just copes with the power when it kicks in...and it kicks in violently at 5000-5500 RPM (sometimes i’m not sure if the clutch slips ) the bike was set up with a 30mm dellorto and was just over 21BHP (on a conservative reading dyno) I also have a 230 TS1 i just built in one of my other bikes (just over 26 BHP on same dyno, same day) that uses an Indian GP box 19/47 and a surflex 4 plate with up rated springs, and copes fine
My Imola will be going back on the dyno soon and i will be changing the gearbox to an Indian GP200 with 18/46 (5.1) to keep the same final drive before it goes, because i have changed carb from a PHBH to a pwk 28/30 and the difference in low throttle riding , pick up/throttle response/ over rev, panel clearance etc is night and day (don’t think i will ever use a PHBH on any of my bikes again)
Hope that helps
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:52 pm
by retrorich
Thanks Padge
Mine puts out 15.5 bhp and I am a lightweight so only time will tell. I ride all my scooters really hard so any issues will surface quickly I would think
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:02 pm
by sean brady scooters
your location says "kingston upon thames " which isnt exactly what i would describe as hilly as its only a max of 10 meters above sea level ! lol.
Re: Primary Drive question
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:54 pm
by YAMLAM
sean brady scooters wrote:your location says "kingston upon thames " which isnt exactly what i would describe as hilly as its only a max of 10 meters above sea level ! lol.
i was just thinking the same, i live about 8/10 miles from Kingston, only hill i can think of is petersham hill.
best gearing advice i ever read was by webbo, " fit the lowest set of gears available to you and play about with the sprockets " or something of that ilk.
Gp125 (Italian or Indian ) gives you more choice of ratio`s than most other boxes.