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SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:09 pm
by Scootermonkey
Opinions on this one guys. Standard SIL 200 engine, starts ok when cold. As soon as it gets hot, it's a ba**tard to start. Checked the usuals. Tried three different carbs, including a brand new Scootopia one. Checked choke cable fitment. Air filter etc. Seems to like spitting plenty of petrol out. I think the bore/rings are worn. It's done near 9000 miles. Barrel has been off some time ago and there were slight heat seizure marks on the piston. Any suggestions??

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:20 pm
by Chris in Margate
Compression test first.

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:49 am
by kejj
I'd say rings!


In iron Lambretta cylinders we trust!

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:08 pm
by Mr G in NYC
^^^^^^^^^^

what he said 8-) G.

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:53 pm
by Darrell Taylor
it will like the extra richness for cold starting but not for hot starting ,if you turn fuel off before turning engine off and blip a few times to run fuel level down then start it up with fuel still off/the choke off and a quarter throttle to admit a bit of air will help alot ,,also what rubber bellows have you got ,has it got a breather to drain off the excess fuel like some of the originals have , that fuel gathers at the base of the rubber and does the same as the choke,it richens up for cold starting but not good for hot starting

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:09 pm
by cgt75b
Darrell Taylor wrote:it will like the extra richness for cold starting but not for hot starting ,if you turn fuel off before turning engine off and blip a few times to run fuel level down then start it up with fuel still off/the choke off and a quarter throttle to admit a bit of air will help alot ,,also what rubber bellows have you got ,has it got a breather to drain off the excess fuel like some of the originals have , that fuel gathers at the base of the rubber and does the same as the choke,it richens up for cold starting but not good for hot starting
Great advice!

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:52 am
by Scootermonkey
Yes, that is good advice, but the spitback is excessive, in my opinion it shouldn't be throwing out that much fuel in the first place. What would cause so much fuel to be forced out of the carb? I know for certain it's not a sticky float

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:17 am
by Darrell Taylor
try the mix screw ,ignore the sticker range ,often needs more than stated

whats the engine history prior to this event any changes made

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:56 pm
by Scootermonkey
Tried three different carbs on it, still the same problem. Engine is completely standard, but the top end was removed some time ago, basically for a check up, and there were some light heat seizure marks on the piston then. Been hard to start pretty much ever since then

Re: SIL 200 bad starting when hot??

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:47 pm
by Darrell Taylor
heat seizure marks ,,so was the rings free and not stuck in there grooves ,did they spring in and out ok