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piston id

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:07 pm
by dave wheeler
bought a piston on ebay, listed as a TS185 piston, its diameter at the crown is 63,6mm, 75mm long and inside is marked made in japan 29900, but the gudgeon pin size is the same as a standard lambretta, which ive been told means it cant be a suzuki ts 185 piston as they have an 18mm gudgeon pin. comparing it to a standard TV175 piston it is aprox 1mm shorter in the skirt but apart from the crown being a different shape its roughly the same size
a/ does this sound like a ts 185 piston
b/ why do i need a 3mm packer when it looks to fit just fine

Re: piston id

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:47 pm
by Adam_Winstone
TS185 have 16mm gudgeon pin size (standard Lambretta), whereas the TS250 piston (used for Suzuki 225 conversions) has 18mm.

Re: piston id

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:41 pm
by boxofbits
There's two ways of doing this conversion -one is machine the barrel down so you can use standard 107 conrod cut piston down revy setup.Or the the other 110 rod standard piston I think you still need a packer but can't can't remember how much in mm - bit more torque than other setup.

Re: piston id

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:14 pm
by camel
Or the third way
116 tv rod or 115 rd400 rod and keep near std port timings if required and no barrel mods

Re: piston id

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:25 pm
by dave wheeler
It's a TV so 116 rod but does it need packer?

Re: piston id

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:53 pm
by camel
Done one with a tv rod and it needed a 2mm packer

Re: piston id

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 12:05 am
by rosscla
Assemble it without the base gasket and see how far the piston sticks out the top of the barrel, that'll tell you what packer you need.

Re: piston id

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:47 pm
by grimspeed
A TS 185 piston has a 32mm crown hight . A std Lambretta has a 39mm crown hight ! So to use a 107 rod you need to remove 7mm !
That's if everything is as it should be . I'v known cases to be out by over 3mm . The problem when using a 107 rod is the inlet port
and how low the inlet is when you have removed the metal required . You could end up heading towards 170 degrees of inlet which
is a tad on the high side for on the road . I would be looking for 150-155 on the inlet . 125 on the transfers and 185 on the exhaust !
That's only my opinion and other folks that tickle two strokes may have differing ideas !