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BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:35 am
by TS1-200
Have a 2nd hand BGM stator have done a check on it red & white 112, green & white nothing , red & white nothing what would need replacing, or who could repair it for me.

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:32 am
by Rally220
Anthony Tambs can sort that for you, I don't know if he's a member on here but he is on FB and frequents Lambretta Street Racers page, and others etc. He's an electronic guru, he also makes the Gamma Units, so contactable here:

http://www.gammatechnology.co.uk/rtse1000.html

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:18 pm
by Toddy
Rally220 wrote:Anthony Tambs can sort that for you, I don't know if he's a member on here but he is on FB and frequents Lambretta Street Racers page, and others etc. He's an electronic guru, he also makes the Gamma Units, so contactable here:

http://www.gammatechnology.co.uk/rtse1000.html

+1 Top man and great work :D

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 4:33 pm
by coaster
TS1-200 wrote:......have done a check on it red & white 112, ......... red & white nothing
Rather contradictory statements there but I assume you mean GREEN and white? That being the case it will probably need a new LT coil (about £23) but have a good check of the connections and the cable. Put the meter probe directly on the point where the green connects to the LT coil, if you then get a reading (close to 500 ohms for a BGM) the problem is in the cable but if you still get nothing and the soldered joint is good (also check the connection to earth) then it will be the coil.

Changing the coil shouldn't be too challenging provided you are reasonably practical and can operate a soldering iron ;)

Colin

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:18 pm
by Rally220
coaster wrote:
TS1-200 wrote:......have done a check on it red & white 112, ......... red & white nothing
Rather contradictory statements there but I assume you mean GREEN and white? That being the case it will probably need a new LT coil (about £23) but have a good check of the connections and the cable. Put the meter probe directly on the point where the green connects to the LT coil, if you then get a reading (close to 500 ohms for a BGM) the problem is in the cable but if you still get nothing and the soldered joint is good (also check the connection to earth) then it will be the coil.

Changing the coil shouldn't be too challenging provided you are reasonably practical and can operate a soldering iron ;)

Colin
As I understand it you cannot check a stator with a multi meter, you will need an oscilloscope for a correct reading otherwise you will get false results? Its all above my pay grade but makes sense when Anthony Tambs describes what he's checking with oscilloscope.

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:57 pm
by Grumpy225
Rally220 wrote:
coaster wrote:
TS1-200 wrote:......have done a check on it red & white 112, ......... red & white nothing
Rather contradictory statements there but I assume you mean GREEN and white? That being the case it will probably need a new LT coil (about £23) but have a good check of the connections and the cable. Put the meter probe directly on the point where the green connects to the LT coil, if you then get a reading (close to 500 ohms for a BGM) the problem is in the cable but if you still get nothing and the soldered joint is good (also check the connection to earth) then it will be the coil.

Changing the coil shouldn't be too challenging provided you are reasonably practical and can operate a soldering iron ;)

Colin
As I understand it you cannot check a stator with a multi meter, you will need an oscilloscope for a correct reading otherwise you will get false results? Its all above my pay grade but makes sense when Anthony Tambs describes what he's checking with oscilloscope.
You can check the resistance (Ohm) values of the individual components and that should tell you if the parts are good. The only way to tell when the trigger (firing point) happens is with an O scope.

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:08 pm
by eden
Rally220 wrote:
coaster wrote:
TS1-200 wrote:......have done a check on it red & white 112, ......... red & white nothing
Rather contradictory statements there but I assume you mean GREEN and white? That being the case it will probably need a new LT coil (about £23) but have a good check of the connections and the cable. Put the meter probe directly on the point where the green connects to the LT coil, if you then get a reading (close to 500 ohms for a BGM) the problem is in the cable but if you still get nothing and the soldered joint is good (also check the connection to earth) then it will be the coil.

Changing the coil shouldn't be too challenging provided you are reasonably practical and can operate a soldering iron ;)

Colin
As I understand it you cannot check a stator with a multi meter, you will need an oscilloscope for a correct reading otherwise you will get false results? Its all above my pay grade but makes sense when Anthony Tambs describes what he's checking with oscilloscope.
lol :shock:

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:01 pm
by coaster
Grumpy225 wrote:As I understand it you cannot check a stator with a multi meter, you will need an oscilloscope for a correct reading otherwise you will get false results? Its all above my pay grade but makes sense when Anthony Tambs describes what he's checking with oscilloscope.
You can check the resistance (Ohm) values of the individual components and that should tell you if the parts are good. The only way to tell when the trigger (firing point) happens is with an O scope.[/quote]

I think I might know who you are talking about if its the guy developing a new ignition system with vids of his test model on FB. I would agree that he seems to know his electronic theory so I suspect you may have misunderstood exactly what he was meaning. The only time an Oscilloscope is going to be of use would be if you were experiencing triggering possibly false triggering. 99.9% of the time checking the resistance of the LT and Pickup with a meter will give you all the information you need about the stator and a strobe will tell when it is firing.

Colin

Re: BGM stator problems

Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 am
by Grumpy225
I'm not on FB so I have no idea who you are talking about but you are correct the only time the O scope really comes in handy is looking for erratic ignition problems. That and a Tach can tell someone a lot about what the ignition is doing.

The rest of the time I just ohm them out.