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Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:52 pm
by alanscottj
I've been running my new build TS1 in over the past month or so, noticed the other day that there was a tiny bit of play in the back wheel that wasn't there before and I could hear a bit of knocking. Due to the noise and the movement I decided to open her up and have a look before any real damage is done.

Took side off and clutch out and there was a bit of movement on the first gear, last time there was any play on the first gear it turned out to be a worn layshaft roller bearing, replaced that and it cured the bit of play. I then took off the endplate and was able to inspect the shim and gears. The gearbox shim has a nice gouge all around it (will get a photo in a bit) and it looks like there is a similar wear/gouging on the underside of the end plate where it meets the big shim.

My question is, would a worn layshaft roller bearing result in the wear/damage done to the shim? Or should I be looking for another cause? I am 100% sure that it was all shimmed up and measured properly when it was put together.

Any thoughts, as always appreciated :D

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:56 pm
by garry inglis
have you checked youre rear nut is tight as the layshaft could have moved :?:

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:00 pm
by alanscottj
garry inglis wrote:have you checked youre rear nut is tight as the layshaft could have moved :?:
The rear nut has a locking plate around it with the screw loctighted in place so it wouldn't come loose....or would/could it? :o

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:08 pm
by garry inglis
well if it had the proper gap at setup something has moved up putting pressure on the top spacer and making the gouge as the enplate is in a fixed position it can not move down for the lip its fixed too

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:16 pm
by alanscottj
garry inglis wrote:well if it had the proper gap at setup something has moved up putting pressure on the top spacer and making the gouge as the enplate is in a fixed position it can not move down for the lip its fixed too
Yeah something has moved. Here's some photos :

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And the other side:

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And the endplate:

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Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:48 pm
by garry inglis
that looks bad alan I think full strip down and reset everything that endplates had it

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:29 pm
by a.lo.v2
not sure if it has an effect but was the other small shim between layshaft and the end bearing there?

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:31 pm
by Muppet
fit a new bearing track in end plate new needle roller and shim

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:43 pm
by alanscottj
a.lo.v2 wrote:not sure if it has an effect but was the other small shim between layshaft and the end bearing there?
It was bud :D

Re: Gear box shimming/bearing replacement

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:46 pm
by alanscottj
Muppet wrote:fit a new bearing track in end plate new needle roller and shim
It'll need a rather thick shim eh? :!: