franspeed tourer or tsr evo

[garry inglis]

what do you think about the franspeed super tourer or the tsr/evo one is300 the other 180 is the franspeed worth the xtra 120 or put another way am I getting 120 ponds of more power

[storkfoot]

I have no experience of any Vietnamese pipes so can't really answer your question

However, I do have experience of JL and Franspeed pipes (Franspeed pipes are made by JL). They are pretty well made (that's not to say they may not need a fettle here and there, or the occasional weld) and have many satisfied Lambretta owners over many years, in the case of JL pipes.

I have a Supertourer on my TS1. It's a very rideable pipe that keeps in the power throughout most of the rev range. I prefer it to the JL3 I had on before.

[Donnie]

Well i had exactly the same dilemma and went for the tsr and am now regretting it.

Yes the tsr comes with 2 swan neck hangers but neither fit mine, im trying to fit it to a gt186 and it just wont line up. the slots are both not forward enough and not long enough in the case of the front one!

tsr1 by Donnie Canning, on Flickr

I was going to return it but cant now be arsed waiting a fortnight minimum for a refund etc so will have to make a new hanger entirely

[shamrockexpress]

Its a real pain in the ass,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just to fit an exhaust, I spent a couple of hours re drilling a hanger for my jl3 on the gt186, my hanger holes where slotted left to right but I found I had to get the pipe higher to clear the kickstart

[Donnie]

Im absolutely sure its down to the stubs.

Standard exhaust stubs are longer, im sure these are designed to fit with the shorter ts1/imola stub.
All the manufacturers have to do is to give us a proper alternative hanger or redesign the first downpipe after the stub to be suited to each stub specifically.

[garry inglis]

thanks donni for the pics its ashame when we spend a fortune on these things they should fit the tsr is for the s3 or it claimes to be I think I will get the franspeed then I would make a flat 3mm plate with the holes elongated to suit the gap you need good luck

[garry inglis]

by the way that pic of your barrel and head it looks mean that porqupine lol

[Donnie]

Certainly does nearly (after 2 more days work) have the exhaust sorted to fit so next job will be setting my timing this evening.

[garry inglis]

what do you set the 186 to 17 static or do you prefer 19 for that kit my rt195 is static 17 as mb recommends goes like s**t off a stick

[Donnie]

17 is where im going to be setting it but just sussing out some jetting first