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Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:50 am
by Nerdy Norm
I'm looking to change a Series 2 over to electronic ignition, but I'm a bit confused about the options available.
I'll probably go for the BGM stator/regulator/CDI kit, but I see that they make 2 versions - one AC and one AC/DC combined.
I don't envisage fitting a battery (it's a non-battery model), and the only other electrical upgrade I'm planning on doing is to fit an LED rear light. I'm not interested in powering extra lights, sat-navs, etc.
Can someone explain to me the pros and cons of using AC or DC in this setup?
Many thanks!
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:04 am
by rosscla
Ideally if you want to run LEDs you should use DC, which either means a battery or a capacitor to smooth the voltage. The battery doesn't need to be very big.
Also bear in mind that most electronic kits are designed for the GP crank unless you get one specifically for the Li style.
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:14 am
by Nerdy Norm
Thanks - I was hoping to get away without a battery, but if it's necessary to run the LED rear light, then so be it. This is the regulator I'll be using:
http://www.scooter-center.com/product/BGM6690
For the flywheel, I'm planning on using the SIL one which I've taken off my Series 3 LI (Indian ignition kit already fitted when I bought it). It's definitely for an LI crank - I know that because I recently changed the S3 to a GP crank, and had to get a new flywheel to go with it.
I take it that the BGM stators don't care which crank size you are using?
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:44 am
by Daggs
There are LED lamps available that work fine on AC.
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:29 pm
by firekdp
If you're using an Asian reg/rec, then you may as well get an AC stator, as main lights will have to be AC. This means (with standard series 2 switches) that even with a battery fitted the tail will run AC when main lights are on.
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:39 pm
by Nerdy Norm
Thanks Firekdp - does that apply to the BGM regulator I linked to?
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:43 pm
by Nerdy Norm
Thanks Daggs - yes, it seems that both the BGM and Atomic LED boards work on both AC and DC.
So the original light switch will only work if fed with AC, not DC?
I'm not sure I'm getting any further forward with whether I need to go for AC or DC

Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:48 pm
by jason frost
Fit the DC one and wire it up to the reg to run AC , then if at a later date you want to go full DC you can without having to take the stator off.
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:10 pm
by firekdp
Nerdy Norm wrote:Thanks Firekdp - does that apply to the BGM regulator I linked to?
Yes.
If you are contemplating fitting a battery, I'd ditch the idea of using the AC/DC reg and go all DC using a full wave rectifier.
Re: Electronic ignition conversion - AC or DC?
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:14 pm
by Nerdy Norm
I don't really want to fit a battery unless it's necessary. I'd prefer to keep it as simple as possible, but with the best performance.
The only non-standard thing I would like is the LED tail-lamp.