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Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:13 pm
by alanscottj
Having a right mare trying to shim a gearbox. I have had everything out and all looks ok, but, when I try to shim the first gear the gap is huge, even with my biggest shim (2.89) the gap is bigger than my biggest feeler (0.9). The layshaft is just proud of the first gear, tried another layshaft and that was flush so scrapped that one.

Any thoughts?

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:51 pm
by dave wheeler
which gearbox is it? i believe li150 box`s can have shimming issues with certain case and layshaft combinations

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:58 pm
by alanscottj
dave wheeler wrote:which gearbox is it? i believe li150 box`s can have shimming issues with certain case and layshaft combinations
GP200 box :)

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:21 pm
by wack 63
The gears need to be higher than the layshaft. Either the layshaft 4 th gear stop is worn or perhaps the gears, especially forth gear. If you know someone with a lathe you can have the flush layshaft skimmed a tad so the gears fit higher or source some more gears and layshaft to try, sometimes just one gear cog can remedy your problem.

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:03 pm
by alanscottj
Boy do I feel a pleb! Spent hours trying different combinations of layshaft, gears, shims etc etc, only to suddenly realise that I have been measuring it wrong all day. I have been measuring the initial gap between endplate and shim, not sliding it right in to measure between race housing. As soon as I realised, took out the far too big shim and put a slightly smaller one in, and pushed the feeler right in, it slid under the endplate giving me a clearance of 0.20 :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:04 pm
by Strummer10
Interestingly I re-built a mate's LI 175 in the summer and the layshaft was proud of the first gear ( when we benched it) and had scored about a 0.5mm groove into the shim , where it had been constantly rubbing on it over the 12 years since the initial build he had done by someone else and told me it run trouble free ??

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:19 pm
by wack 63
Sorry to say but you should be measuring between the shim and the raised ring cast around the bush on the endplate.

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:37 pm
by alanscottj
wack 63 wrote:Sorry to say but you should be measuring between the shim and the raised ring cast around the bush on the endplate.
That's where I'm measuring now, I think I referred to it as the race housing ;) I'm pretty sure I have it shimmed correctly now :D

Re: Gearbox shimming....help!

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:43 pm
by wack 63
Phew