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Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:00 am
by alanscottj
So, I have got my new build TS1 on the road for the first time and boy does it Rev really high really quIckly, I have to get into fourth really quick, even round town at 30mph! When in fourth, I haven't dared to go past 50 as its starts to scream!

Gearbox is a Li150 Pacemaker, JL3 pipe, clutch sprocket 46 and front 16.

Could it be a) the gearing or b) clutch? Or c) an air leak? Or something else?

Any thoughts? :D

Tia, Scott

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:02 am
by Grumpy225
Gearing is my first thought

Just for perspective, I use to run my TS1 (Taff mk3, 35TMX Mikuni) with a SX200 gear box on 16/46. That gave it a FDR of 4.51 This motor was great in town and on the highway. I couldn't pick up the front wheel but that didn't matter.

Yours has a 5.29 in 4th. Every gear is screaming and you're at 6k rpm at 57mph


could be jetting or clutch but those would give slightly different symptoms.

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:21 am
by scooterslag
Had a similar problem on a standard SX150 a little while ago, everything checked out fine and it was really starting to get on my tits, it would get to about 40mph and just scream its nuts off- turned out in the end to be a series 1 cush drive spring which is shorter which can give the symptoms of a slipping clutch. I remember replacing the old (correct sized) spring with the S1 type when I repaired a blown drive side oil seal, thought the old spring and cap looked a bit worn. Once I popped a longer spring back in , it ran fine,Might be worth a look. Paul :)

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:04 am
by Muttley McLadd
Have you got a rev counter? Could be worth borrowing one you haven't, just to check approx speed against revs.
Less effort than whipping the engine to bits, as a first option.

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:33 am
by mick1
So.....you've got a revvy kit, a revvy exhaust and revvy gearing and it's .........revvy.....hmmmmmm

Agree with MM get a rev counter and check against speed. I bought a "cheap as chips" one of e-bay for about £6 and it works fine. Might be tricky seeing it but I've seen a hand held one made by Draper that just clips round you're HT lead with no wiring involved. Think they cost about £30.

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:43 am
by drunkmunkey6969
Clutch slip....

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:33 am
by alanscottj
drunkmunkey6969 wrote:Clutch slip....
That's what I'm now thinking, it screams at about 3000/4000 revs, sound ok till about then but then revs out. I'm thinking of getting a centre clutch spring, what do you reckon?

Re: Engine really revvy ........

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:36 am
by drunkmunkey6969
alanscottj wrote:
drunkmunkey6969 wrote:Clutch slip....
That's what I'm now thinking, it screams at about 3000/4000 revs, sound ok till about then but then revs out. I'm thinking of getting a centre clutch spring, what do you reckon?
Try slacking the cable adjuster first.

If that doesn't work, swap whatever springs you have for MB uprated ones.