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Gearbox identification

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:41 pm
by phil23fair
I have got an Italian ratio Li150 gearbox of unknown provenance where every gear and the Xmas tree is marked with a hand etched letter J about 3mm high which has a little box etched around it. Anybody got any ideas if this is original or one of the recent remade ones?

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:47 pm
by Grumpy225
Sounds like a Series 1 or 2 I believe. Early stuff had the "J" (actually an I but looks like a J).

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:22 pm
by rosscla
Usually cast though, not etched, a picture might help.

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:04 pm
by phil23fair
rosscla wrote:Usually cast though, not etched, a picture might help.
I don't know how to post photos but if you look at ebay item 171640785871 the second gear in the second photo is marked the same. From replies I have had on the LCGB website it appparently is quite a common marking on early gearboxes especially Li150s

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:46 pm
by rosscla
Yep, that's what I meant by cast in, if it looks like that then probably genuine.

You could also use the gear box identification chart , like the one in Sticky's book, and a vernier to take some measurements.

How to post pics is here -

http://scooterotica.org/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=26071

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:21 am
by phil23fair
Not the cast Innocenti logo. The second photo, bottom left gear. The etched symbol is on the gear tooth at about 2 o'clock

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:36 am
by Grumpy225
phil23fair wrote:Not the cast Innocenti logo. The second photo, bottom left gear. The etched symbol is on the gear tooth at about 2 o'clock

Yes those are Innocenti.


It's anybody's guess as to why it was engraved on to the gear. If I had to make a guess I'd say it was a production run thing or the guy who had the stamp tool took it home with him the day before. Who knows?

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:38 am
by rosscla
I've never seen or noticed that before

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Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:11 am
by phil23fair
Thanks for your responses. It's going in my TS1 today

Re: Gearbox identification

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:49 pm
by Daggs
Someone has been counting the teeth ( i guess his name was Jim) He has marked a tooth to aid the count. I do it with a felt pen.