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Needle bearings

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:47 pm
by Blackhawk
Any tips for getting the needle bearings back in the front spring on a 150s? I've tried holding them in place with grease but not having much luck. Are there any bearings in a cage available.

Ta.

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:08 pm
by goldeneye
do you mean the loose needle bearings on the xmas tree? a dollop of grease and work them round with a small screwdriver works for me.

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:30 pm
by Blackhawk
If that's the input gear shaft then no. The front spring where the shaft that holds the brake shoes runs through. Tricky little buggers and tow rows of them :(

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:29 pm
by rosscla
You mean the front axle?

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:53 pm
by Blackhawk
It has a spyware spring and damper. The needle bearings go in the bottom of the spring.

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:29 am
by Yanker
Blackhawk wrote:Any tips for getting the needle bearings back in the front spring on a 150s? .
FFS! Where are the needle bearings in relation to the 'front spring' on one of those? Drip them in?

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:35 am
by Yanker
Blackhawk wrote:It has a spyware spring and damper. The needle bearings go in the bottom of the spring.
OK, clear then: I would reccomend rivveting them in: you need inner surfaced hardened 4mm dia 50mm diaplosing temporal rivvets to get the job done right. Normal ones usually work OK though if you are not fussy.

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:14 am
by Blackhawk
Ah, separate not spyware.
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Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:24 pm
by GLscoot
Not easy, there should be a small sleeve that goes in first, sits roughly in the middle and has two small holes to allow the grease to spread around the needle bearings. The only way is to use grease and loads of patience. The other way is to replace the part the holds the bearings and use the one that comes with a brass bush, it still has the grease nipple and so won't wear out the brass bush. I will post a picture as soon as I can, of the part.
i would also replace the Spring with the 25% or 33% stronger spring, cost around £35 in chrome or steel.

Re: Needle bearings

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:47 pm
by cartmel808
You need to throw that old spring in the bin & get one of these.... http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/produ ... ing_pv0707

And then one of these.... http://www.sip-scootershop.com/main/bas ... r=71080000

And also one of these.... http://www.sip-scootershop.com/main/bas ... r=71017001

For 'approx' £135.00 outlay (depending on where you buy from) the spring & damper upgrade is one of the best things you can do to your type of fork & will make for a much improved front end. :D