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mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:24 pm
by camel
whilst stripping my motor to do some tweeks i gave my flywheel a quick check for bearing play and i felt quite a bit of "rocking",i wouldnt mind but this bearing has done 1000 miles
anyone else had premature bearing failure/wear like this?
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:00 pm
by bristolmod
cheap bearing?
crank out of true?
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:05 pm
by camel
It was a FAG bearing,i,l check the crank when i remove it,im just suspicious of reputable bearings being made in India and wondered if anyone else has had a problem...hopefully its a one off then
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:47 pm
by Donnie
Ummm quite a few fag bearings are made in india and have been for years. Many genuine piaggio bearings similarly made in japan / china.
I don't know why people automatically assume somethings shite because of where its made.
Its not where its made, it's about the quality control.
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:16 pm
by camel
good shout bristolmod....crank is about 0.010" out,its welded and not twisted a couple of turns in the vice opposite the crankpin has pulled it to within 0.001"
apologies to the indians Donnie
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:58 pm
by storkfoot
Camel, sorry to hear of your woes. For my own knowledge, when this happens to a crank that has been welded, can the crank be saved?
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:19 pm
by camel
id welded this crank before i built a crank trueing jig so yes i never rechecked it,i clamped a known true crank,welded it but didnt re-check it,so its my own fault
weather its welded or not the webs can splay inward or outward on a rebuild,ie opposite the pin,only marginal...but its magnified at its furthest point(where i put the dti) ie right by the flywheel thread so you can either use wedges/chisel to open them out or clamp them in a vice to close them in and re-checking it on a jig,...so yes id say it can be done..
but trying to rotate a web on a welded pin would probably cause a problem or be very difficult,you maybe get a thou or two rotation but anymore your going to break the weld or do damage
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:09 pm
by storkfoot
Cheers for that. I have never had a crank welded but I have thought about it. That said I have (touch wood) never had a crank go out of true on my TS1 (Grampian fettled Indian webs and ke175 Conrod).
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:03 am
by gaz_powell
/\ /\ /\ thats the kiss of death !
Re: mag side bearing failure
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:56 pm
by vespanic
It's good to know that you have found the fault but there are some fake bearings out there. A friend has recently realised that he had fitted some fake bearings bought from a reputable dealer. Dealer was not aware but further investigations found that fake bearings are usually stamped with Japan because people buy those more readily than ones stamped India. I believe there were a load of fake bearings (FAG) sold on eBay a while back