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Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:04 pm
by lofty
I am trying to identify the parts used in this conversion, it was done by PM tuning in the late 80's.. (Ive dropped them an email just in case they still have records).

ideally i need a new piston and seals, so if anyone knows what they come from (eg a car/bike etc) any information is gratefully received.

the piston measures 35.95 mm in diameter and 30mm in length.

there are 2 seals, a plain rubber square section ring and another which seems to have a double lip and is held in with an L section metal ring.

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hydraulic by clofts175, on Flickr

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:20 am
by lofty
Ive had a bit of a google detective session..

It looks like the piston and seals are from a metro turbo 4 pot caliper.. Fortunately it seems this is popular brake upgrade for classic minis and so parts are readily available..

anyway ive placed an order with 'minispares' hopefully these parts will do the trick..

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:59 pm
by rosscla
Let us know how you get on as I've got a very similar one with the piston missing and I'm sure the measurements are the same.

http://scooterotica.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27030

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:45 pm
by rosscla
Here's a couple of pics of mine. It only had one seal in.

Where were the other two ?

Edit: I think the penny just dropped the L shaped ring and double lipped seal fit in the recess on the side that faces the disk?

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Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:49 pm
by lambro
Wasn't this a Taffy conversion of the 80's ??
Try Ian the 'terribletaff' on here.

His bites work than his bark :lol:

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:51 pm
by rosscla
I PM'd him about it but he's never got back, I didn't chase it...

I was told this was a Taffspeed one though when I bought it

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:56 pm
by lambro
PM again.
Or post publically and shame him.
He's welsh, he's heard worse :lol:

Ian will be your best point of call, or you can ask someone who has his mobile/email to contact him for you.

Shaun.

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:49 am
by lofty
I will let you know how I get on..

yes exactly, the outer seal goes in the recess nearest the disk, and is held in by the L shaped ring..

however after spending ages poring the internet and finally finding the answer I googled 'metro 4 pot lambretta' , one of the first hits was a link to the LCGB website forum and a post from Ian saying the taffspeed version used the same piston and seals..
http://www.forums.ilambretta.com/viewto ... 6&p=293094

so the answer was under my nose all along, but unfortunately I wasnt asking the right question, very philosophical, that could be 'thought for the day' i suppose ;)

Re: Hydraulic backplate identification

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:25 pm
by shocky
lots of people did these conversions in the 80,s taffspeed ,msc, kegra and so claimed to be the first was mbd my first one was from taffspeed in 1984 and fitted to my 240 which later went on to be my gp6 race bike