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Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:33 pm
by lambytone
Hi, Ive got an unfinished series 1 project on the go at the moment and know that I'm not going to get it finished paint wise. Originally I was going to do all the paint my self as I'm working to a really tight budget but havent got the time or money to do it.
Anyway...... What I want to know is, whats the easiest way to matt black it with a view to maybe spraying properly at a later date. Most of the bodywork is in etch/filler primer already, can I just hand paint or spray it matt black and then flat it back at a a later date and spray over the top. Or will i have to re prime and then spray. Also some bits are still bare metal will I have to prime these for the matt black finish. Thanks, Tony

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:41 pm
by RICSPEED
well i would say if would depend on how long you intend it to remain in matt paint ,if you leave it long enough it will start to rust in places

id go for satin black (pound land) and give it a few coats ,is should flat back ok but dont hand paint or you will have to re strip

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:43 pm
by lambytone
Is that the satin black in aerosols?

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:40 pm
by RICSPEED
lambytone wrote:Is that the satin black in aerosols?
yes in rattle cans

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:54 pm
by Muttley McLadd
lambytone wrote: Anyway...... What I want to know is, whats the easiest way to matt black it with a view to maybe spraying properly at a later date. Most of the bodywork is in etch/filler primer already, can I just hand paint or spray it matt black and then flat it back at a a later date and spray over the top. Or will i have to re prime and then spray. Also some bits are still bare metal will I have to prime these for the matt black finish. Thanks, Tony
The EASIEST way is to go to Wilkos and get a brush and a tin of blackboard paint. You can 'prime' it with one coat and top coat over that. When it gets scratched or dirty, you can brush another coat over the top, etc.

If you're going to do a posh paintjob at some point in the future, you'd take it to bits and strip it anyway, wont you?
I'm struggling to think of a reason you'd do this.. unless you're on HRT.

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:57 pm
by john.t5
Matt black over what's there - satin black is the most shite looking thing you could possibly do to a scooter, looks like f@@k all, matt it and then when you're doing it right the guy painting it will tell you what you need, but if you matt black it properly it will never need a fancy paint job cause it will look great as is and touch ups are just a case of painting more matt over the bad area, you don't even need to clean it first!!! :D :D

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:03 am
by coaster
If you use cheap (Poundland) rattle cans or blackboard paint, the chances are that it will react with any decent paint you might want to put over it later.

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:11 am
by Muttley McLadd
john.t5 wrote: satin black is the most shite looking thing you could possibly do to a scooter,
On a par with white and something boring paint jobs.
coaster wrote:If you use cheap (Poundland) rattle cans or blackboard paint, the chances are that it will react with any decent paint you might want to put over it later.
Yes.. it'll try its best to shrug it off like a disease. Does paint get any better?

Re: Matt Black

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:23 pm
by LittleBritishCar
If you are worried about rust you can use an epoxy matte black or epoxy primer with rattle can flat over it. A true epoxy uses a hardener so you wont find it in a spray can. You can, however, buy the paint, mix it, then use a Preval sprayer. It essentially turns any paint into a rattle can. I use these all the time and they work as well or better than a moderately priced spray gun. Plus you get ten times the amount of solids you get from a can of Krylon by using real automotive paint:
http://shop.preval.com/collections/fron ... al-sprayer

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