Lambretta advance and retard

Anything related to Lambrettas... ask tech questions, post helpful info, or just read and learn.
Bren
registered user
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:08 pm
Main scooter: Lambretta S-Type 225
Contact:

Any one have ideas why an Augusto and an M-tech would not retard fully?

Have tried both on my ts1 with different stators and CDI's and they both will not fully retard. For example the M-tech set at 19 degrees BTDC will only retard to 17/16 degrees on its full retard setting.

I have also tried different flywheels :?:
User avatar
corrado
Dealer
Posts: 2588
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:12 am
Main scooter: Lambretta GP
Location: Top of Blackpool Tower
Contact:

Aren't you supposed to set the M Tech at 25 degrees and then choose the switch position to suit?

http://www.lambrettaspares.com/info/fit ... s+184.html
fishi
registered user
Posts: 146
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:09 pm
Contact:

you have tried this, works perfecly:


http://www.lambretta-teile.de/CDI-Zuend ... etta-Vespa
Minority
registered user
Posts: 673
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:00 pm
Main scooter: Li230 S3
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Contact:

Bren wrote:Any one have ideas why an Augusto and an M-tech would not retard fully?

Have tried both on my ts1 with different stators and CDI's and they both will not fully retard. For example the M-tech set at 19 degrees BTDC will only retard to 17/16 degrees on its full retard setting.

I have also tried different flywheels :?:
That's really interesting. I have an Mtech unit that I think is doing exactly the same!

I fitted it after a rebuild and seemed to be getting minimal retardation even on the maximum setting. As I was running in, I set it to a conservative initial advance and was going to revisit the ignition timing scenario with a few more miles on the clock.

I must admit I haven't asked Martin at Chiselspeed about it which I should have maybe initially, my bad! Maybe both you and I should drop him a line.

My setup is basically a SIL 12v electronic ignition which has given me no problems.
User avatar
giankx
registered user
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: Matera - South Italy
Contact:

My mtech did the same too, only retarded from 23 to 17 in the fully retard position.
I initially tought it was due to a bad earth contact, but the unit didn't worked well even on other earth points.
Now i've bought another unit with 2 earth wires. Hope it works!
I have a bgm stator with a Beedspeed midweight flywheel and blue Ducati CDI.
Bren
registered user
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:08 pm
Main scooter: Lambretta S-Type 225
Contact:

I made sure earth is good to frame and engine. I wondered if it could be the loom earthing out or the ignition switch however this wouldn't explain the consistent movement. It just will not retard past 3 or 4 degrees. Augusto was the same so I am guessing its something on the bike!!
User avatar
jason frost
Dealer
Posts: 485
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:45 am
Contact:

Have you run it with the green from the loom unplugged from the coil ?
Bren
registered user
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:08 pm
Main scooter: Lambretta S-Type 225
Contact:

Jason, Yes we did that when fitting it so that's the ignition eliminated!
User avatar
giankx
registered user
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: Matera - South Italy
Contact:

Which stators, flywheel and CDI did you tried with?
Bren
registered user
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:08 pm
Main scooter: Lambretta S-Type 225
Contact:

New BGM stator and a new sil one form Scooter restorations. Two different Ducati CDI's, An elmec flywheel and my original Ducati electronic flywheel. Mixed and matched for my other bike..
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic
  • Information
  • Who is online

    Users browsing this forum: Amazon [Bot] and 32 guests