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Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:09 pm
by rog60
As my Indian GP is starting to blow a little smoke on hard acceleration and I have to keep topping up the gearbox, I am about to strip down and replace the drive side oil seal, BUT as the retaining plate is probably alloy does anyone have a recommendation for the remade steel ones as original ones are virtually impossible to obtain?

I know that Taffspeed do one for about £15 and MB's is about £11, but ScootRS do one at about £7. Should I also replace the bearing which was replaced with a European one on original assembly(engine has done about 2800miles) with one which has the two extra seals if necessary or do it anyway?

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:23 pm
by J1MS
I remember when Websters tuning manual first came out in a monthly mag which was Run by Norrie Kerr, and as he was one of the best tuners on the race track....His reccommendation was to ditch the steel item and fit the alloy GP one instead....I can remember nearly every engine I built after that in the 80's, throwing away perfectly good steel ones for the GP type that now it seems no one wants to use.....Even me... :shock:

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:27 pm
by rog60
Yeah JIMS, but I think that was because they were lighter for the racing world, and I believe that Innocenti fitted them to the last few GP's which is probably why the Indians copied it. :!: :!:

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:38 pm
by sean brady scooters
its all swings and roundabouts............
at one time the ally ones where prefered cos they increased primary comp........flat face instead of the steel ones with a big groove in............... :lol:

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:41 pm
by byron
I'd go with MB for £4 difference...
[rant]as i posted on another thread, what is annoying is dealers building engines and fitting these, when it's such a known problem :evil: [/rant]
when I've been sent a bearing with two seals, I've always discarded one and then fitted the side without a seal facing the sprocket

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:50 pm
by rog60
Thanks for thoughts so far, the remade ones don't appear to have the slot as in originals. I was leaning towards MB as, IMO, their in house designed items have always been very good quality.

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:10 pm
by J1MS
I just wish I had now, all the ones I threw away then... :roll:

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:54 pm
by corrado
I'd go with the MB one and fit their Viton seals to mag & driveside.

Re: Driveside Oil Seal Retaining Plates?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:38 pm
by rog60
corrado wrote:I'd go with the MB one and fit their Viton seals to mag & driveside.
Thanks for reminding me about that, someone told me that Viton seals were more resistant to unleaded etc.