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I'm currently running a smallblock 200 from AF with 22mm jetex and 42mm AF clubman exhaust, recently the exhaust has started blowing from the bracket area so will either need replacing or repairing.

My question is would it be worth spending the extra cash on a Ancillotti clubman or one of the new 'Super clubmans' when they appear or with my setup would I be wasting my money and do as well getting another AF.

Don't want an expansion and the Gori's are a bit too expensive for me, any advice greatly received.

Shep.

I believe the new Clubmans will make quite a bit of differance...

Timbo wrote:I believe the new Clubmans will make quite a bit of differance...

Yes but how long for? Both MB and Avanti have us believing they are just around the corner then nothing

my ancillotti ( 2 piece tube) was easy to fit and sounds less intrusive than an AF clubman, and has added around 4/5 mph to my top speed...

Many thanks, worth looking at swapping then.

I asked Andy Francis @ Brid when the new clubman was expected, he said 4 weeks....

To be honest ive had two ancillotti's break on me , one at the engine mount and one down pipe, they sound good and perform well but for the money id buy a kba clubman, they last longer and cost a lot less and they aren't as loud as the AF ones. The gori is a great exhaust for performance but too loud by far,,

I've used a number of clubman type pipes over the years and I'm looking forward to the new generation of 'super' clubmans that should be arriving before too long. I currently run 2 of the Ron Moss clubman pipes on 2 of my bikes (1 on a Mugello 260 and 1 on an Avanti TT3) and have never had a standard tailpipe clubman perform anything like it! The closest that I've got to this performance and higher rev-range power delivery, where most kits are ported to produce power, was a 48mm VW AF clubman, which was the only clubman that would allow my TS1 to perform 'correctly'. Sadly, the VW clubman could not stay on because of the CRAZY noise that it made; way too loud and really nasty for road use..... really nasty!

I've run a UK tuner's respected clubman on various motors for many thousands of miles, including at least a couple of Euro lambrettas, and thought that this was the best to be had. However, it seemed to be restricting the rev range of my TT3 225 so I opted to try one of Ron's clubman pipes and the difference was staggering! I seemed to lose none of the low rev torque but my tacho suddenly showed over 1000 rpm more at the top of the range and this allowed the motor to hold on into a powerband that had previously been out of reach. Unlike many of the revvy expansions, which lose low rev torque, the Avanti clubman delivers a really nice balance of high and low power, which is really useable on the road with kitted motors.

That said, the V1 Avanti clubmans IMO lacked a few features that I'd have liked to have seen, incl. stub mounting from barrel (like any decent TS1 pipe) so that M7 stud threads were better protected on alloy kits, a method of adjusting the pipe's body position so that kits running packers could use it without being under stress, a loose tailpipe clamp and slotted underside bracket to facilitate this movement for various kits. I had to modify my V1 Avanti clubman so that I could fit it with my 64.5mm stroke Mugello and since doing so this has been extremely reliable, seeing me safely around Brittany and up through France to Belgium, then for a lengthy period of daily commuting over the summer months. What is really nice to see is that these features have all been incorporated into Ron's design for the super clubman version (produced by JL) that many of us are looking forward to.

A pipe that looks standard but performs like a good expansion, allowing kits to perform to their porting, rather than a restriction imposed by the pipe, with standard pipe reliablity is something that I am very much looking forward to. The V1 is the best clubman that I've used to date and I see the new version to offer even more

Christmas list sorted out.

Adam

lozmondo wrote:I asked Andy Francis @ Brid when the new clubman was expected, he said 4 weeks....

Yes but I think I am right in saying that the first batch (end of Nov') is sold out and you need to go on the waiting list for the second batch.

Adam_Winstone wrote:I've used a number of clubman type pipes over the years and I'm looking forward to the new generation of 'super' clubmans that should be arriving before too long. I currently run 2 of the Ron Moss clubman pipes on 2 of my bikes (1 on a Mugello 260 and 1 on an Avanti TT3) and have never had a standard tailpipe clubman perform anything like it! The closest that I've got to this performance and higher rev-range power delivery, where most kits are ported to produce power, was a 48mm VW AF clubman, which was the only clubman that would allow my TS1 to perform 'correctly'. Sadly, the VW clubman could not stay on because of the CRAZY noise that it made; way too loud and really nasty for road use..... really nasty!

I've run a UK tuner's respected clubman on various motors for many thousands of miles, including at least a couple of Euro lambrettas, and thought that this was the best to be had. However, it seemed to be restricting the rev range of my TT3 225 so I opted to try one of Ron's clubman pipes and the difference was staggering! I seemed to lose none of the low rev torque but my tacho suddenly showed over 1000 rpm more at the top of the range and this allowed the motor to hold on into a powerband that had previously been out of reach. Unlike many of the revvy expansions, which lose low rev torque, the Avanti clubman delivers a really nice balance of high and low power, which is really useable on the road with kitted motors.

That said, the V1 Avanti clubmans IMO lacked a few features that I'd have liked to have seen, incl. stub mounting from barrel (like any decent TS1 pipe) so that M7 stud threads were better protected on alloy kits, a method of adjusting the pipe's body position so that kits running packers could use it without being under stress, a loose tailpipe clamp and slotted underside bracket to facilitate this movement for various kits. I had to modify my V1 Avanti clubman so that I could fit it with my 64.5mm stroke Mugello and since doing so this has been extremely reliable, seeing me safely around Brittany and up through France to Belgium, then for a lengthy period of daily commuting over the summer months. What is really nice to see is that these features have all been incorporated into Ron's design for the super clubman version (produced by JL) that many of us are looking forward to.

A pipe that looks standard but performs like a good expansion, allowing kits to perform to their porting, rather than a restriction imposed by the pipe, with standard pipe reliablity is something that I am very much looking forward to. The V1 is the best clubman that I've used to date and I see the new version to offer even more

Christmas list sorted out.

Adam

I run an af 175 stage 4 on a series two with af clubman was hoping the new super clubman would give me a smoother power delivery up to 50ish the motor will pull 50 all day but does feel like its doing it if that makes sense. Was hoping the clubman would improve this and smooth the ride out a bit and get me in the power without so much effort