Page 1 of 8
30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:09 pm
by davidblythe
Rode a scooter that i was informed after i had ridden it had 30 bhp
thought it was nice to ride with a typical tuned power curve with a trough in the midrange
also carried a gps with me as a reality check (not high due to short gearing)
not disputing the bhp figure stated at all, but quite surprised how docile it was,
what bhp does a scooter need to be become 250 elsie mad
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:19 pm
by Juan
I doubt there's any figure really, it comes down mainly to the whole package.
Say Terrance Turner builds one having thought everything through and whilst maybe peaky the delivary is fluid at your 30 bhp.
Then say Henry Hammer builds one looking at one or 2 parts of the formula and records the same peak figure but it's balls and pretty much unrideable.
Is this making sense?
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:13 am
by cezeta
pope said to the athiest "in gods name i do swear
you 're searching blindly in the dark for something that aint there'
the athiest said to the pope "there aint no getting round it
you too are searching in the dark for nothing but you found it"
you will never find what you are looking for mr blythe, those that think they have are fortunate to have blind fath in something that isnt quite as it seems.
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:44 am
by tony
Juan is right. Its the whole package. Its ok having 30bhp for pub talk. How the torque curve is, how wide, how strong is what dictates how the motor will feel.
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:04 am
by drunkmunkey6969
davidblythe wrote:what bhp does a scooter need to be become 250 elsie mad
You cant compare apples and oranges.....they're two different fruits my friend.

Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:51 pm
by Knowledge
....and just to finish this one off with the usual throw-away, but it was reported to me that a scooter was claimed to have 33bhp on so-and-so's dyno, but only made 24 on another.
So what does a 30bhp engine feel like? One could argue that a 30bhp engine feels like one that makes 22bhp.
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:54 pm
by DACTEK
tony wrote:Juan is right. Its the whole package. Its ok having 30bhp for pub talk. How the torque curve is, how wide, how strong is what dictates how the motor will feel.
well said
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:57 pm
by sean brady scooters
this is why,amongst many other reasons...............we are now getting our own dyno............
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:06 pm
by J1MS
Table top mountain is whats needed
Re: 30 bhp whats it feel like
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:29 pm
by cezeta
J1MS wrote:Table top mountain is whats needed
eh.....capetown?