Scooterotica

how do you change mounts on a p2/t5 and what bits do i need to buy?

mmmmm, every time i buy a scooter from a scooterist it has had a fortune in go faster tatt spent on it but has never seen a smear of copperslip on a thread.

has nobody ever changed their mounts? i think we need a basic maintenance section on this forum

If you`re on about the rubber engine mount bushes then they`re a pain in the hole. Did a P2 recently which had the main engine bolt seized solid. I cut the bolt ends off between the engine and frame with a 1mm cutting disc on a grinder to drop the engine.
I found the best way then was to drill holes through the rubber bushes all the way round and cut as much of the bush away with a very sharp Stanley knife. Then used a g-clamp to push the bush in as far as it would go while melting the rubber with a blow lamp. They are bonded pretty well to the engine but once you get it shifted you`re on to a winner. The remains of the rubber needs cleared then and the new mounts went in pretty easily.

P200 and T5 are two piece mounts, and once the rubber bit has been delt with, come out relitivley easy, bar a siezed engine mounting bolt. new ones are wound in with a long piece of threaded bar and some huge flat washers (i had a great , purpose made one , but havnt seen it for years, so its probly long gone somewhere) px125 mounts are a different kettle of fish. a long bar, with two washers that need deftly peening into place , and b@5t@rd awkward rubber mounts that will not go in no matter what you do. also , removing them requires the center tube to be cut with a reciprocating saw, or major grinding of the washers to get them out. its a tw@7 of a job. done a few , but always refuse to do them now. i run out of swear words before the job is finished.

I drilled a bunch of holes in the old mount rubber and then used a large drift pin with a flattened end to knock out the mount on the opposite side. I then installed Clauss Studio's urathane mounts with a light smear of Bel Ray assembly lube. It worked bitchen, no problem. This was on a 74 Rally. P ones don't look too different.

ive done a few sets now, the trick is to poke a screwdriver down the side of the old mount and spray a bit of wd40 between the rubber and casing. then put the mount bar in just a couple of inches and rotate stretching the rubber....the wd40 penetrates round and the rubber pulls out easily.

clean up and fit a new one with a bit of tyre lube and threaded rod. easy.

ive yet to find a vespa with the rear wheel in the middle of the rear of the frame though even with new mounts. odd

Just did a set. Used a stud out tool, the type of stud remover that you tap into a bolt when the head has broken off. Set the drill on reverse, put a screw driver inbetween the two center tubes to lever while spinning and out they come. No need to mess about with the bushes at all.
Got panicked trying to find a set of collars(as per goldeneyes post) thinking that the one I was working on already had had them removed. Until I read the parts book and sussed they were only for P125's

Still got a p125 motor lurking around somewhere with no mounts in it. Took me all day to get them out about three years ago. Couldn't be arsed to do any more with it.

Seen a few p125 motors on fleabay with no mounts in as well, but no mention of this fact in the listing.