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vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:11 pm
by sean brady scooters
friend of mine has just stripped down his smally motor due to various probs /none performance...
and has found that amongst other things it may have been slightly over geared.
its an ET3 main case ,although it has a missmatched outer case half...
running a polini 135 kit on 4 speed gearbox ,cut crank...approx 180 degrees of inlet timing..24mm carb and PM pipe.
cases have not been matched or ported .so std.
primarys are 29/68...hence 2.34:1
i assume this is way out myself and have advised him so (maybe std primmy pimarys would be better or others to give maybe a 2.55/2.6 :1 ratio) but would appreciate some advise from others just to give him a second oppinion as hes very confused about it all.
Re: vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:41 pm
by Robi
Match the casing, and a 2.56 for road use, a 3.00 for race.
And you can put a DRT gearing shaft to mount both around 2.86
For me 2.34 is to long for an "small" engine, and you can never pull the 4th...
Re: vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:10 pm
by Wayne Miller
sean brady scooters wrote:friend of mine has just stripped down his smally motor due to various probs /none performance...
and has found that amongst other things it may have been slightly over geared.
its an ET3 main case ,although it has a missmatched outer case half...
running a polini 135 kit on 4 speed gearbox ,cut crank...approx 180 degrees of inlet timing..24mm carb and PM pipe.
cases have not been matched or ported .so std.
primarys are 29/68...hence 2.34:1
i assume this is way out myself and have advised him so (maybe std primmy pimarys would be better or others to give maybe a 2.55/2.6 :1 ratio) but would appreciate some advise from others just to give him a second oppinion as hes very confused about it all.
Hi Sean,
Either standard primmy primarys 24/61 or 27/69 should give you around 2.55
24/61 = 2.54
27/69 = 2.56
Tell him to get a short forth too
Re: vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:01 am
by tony
Sean if you run 27/69 you have a 3 further options of drt primaries that will interchange. 25,26 and 28.. in fact he may even do a 29 now.. wayne is right with the drt 4th.. this sounds good with the 27/69
Robi.. that gearing for race is way too low for the uk tracks btw.
Re: vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:18 am
by Wayne Miller
Ive not seen the 29 yet, but I'll be buying one to play with soon Tony
ps DRT also do a 24 for use with 27/69
24/69 = 2.88
25/69 = 2.76
26/69 = 2.65
27/69 = 2.56
28/69 = 2.46
29/60 = 2.38
Re: vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:04 pm
by Robi
tony wrote:
Robi.. that gearing for race is way too low for the uk tracks btw.
Oups
I forgive you run on long track
In france, we race on short track (approx 1/1.5 km)
Re: vespa small frame gearing
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:08 pm
by sean brady scooters
thanks for the replys everyone
