/blind me in the dark. Is there a lower wattage lamp out there? Seem to remember seeing an LED one somewhere.Speedo lamp
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Recently restored Injun running 12V AC. LED rear brake light and Halogen headlight. Speedo light is too bright and will bling /blind me in the dark. Is there a lower wattage lamp out there? Seem to remember seeing an LED one somewhere.
/blind me in the dark. Is there a lower wattage lamp out there? Seem to remember seeing an LED one somewhere.Compact Toolbox Flywheel Holder
What you need is not lower wattage, but higher voltage. A commercial vehicle 24v type will give the same light output as the original did on 6v. This was the only reason 12v speedo lamps were fitted to 6v systems by Innocenti.
You're not quite right there Firekdp. A lower wattage lamp will reduce the brightness.firekdp wrote:What you need is not lower wattage, but higher voltage. A commercial vehicle 24v type will give the same light output as the original did on 6v. This was the only reason 12v speedo lamps were fitted to 6v systems by Innocenti.
Innocenti fitted 12V lamps in speedos to absorb excess power from the mag (the days before voltage regulators)
Although the books tell you this, it is those that are wrong. There is no way a lamp can act as a regulator, fact. The only reason they were fitted was to reduce the brightness of the speedo, as soon as a 12v conversion is done you can see that the light is too bright. Fitting a 12v 2.5w lamp to a 6v system would give the equivalent output to a 6v 0.625w lamp, are/were these available?Daggs wrote:You're not quite right there Firekdp. A lower wattage lamp will reduce the brightness. Innocenti fitted 12V lamps in speedos to absorb excess power from the mag (the days before voltage regulators)
Can't agree with you mate. Think about it. If Innocenti felt a 2.5W speedo light was too bright, they would have fitted a 6V 2W or 1W. The ability of the 12V lamp to absorb excess power is why it was there. That doesn't make it a regulator, just a power sink.firekdp wrote:Although the books tell you this, it is those that are wrong. There is no way a lamp can act as a regulator, fact. The only reason they were fitted was to reduce the brightness of the speedo, as soon as a 12v conversion is done you can see that the light is too bright. Fitting a 12v 2.5w lamp to a 6v system would give the equivalent output to a 6v 0.625w lamp, are/were these available?Daggs wrote:You're not quite right there Firekdp. A lower wattage lamp will reduce the brightness. Innocenti fitted 12V lamps in speedos to absorb excess power from the mag (the days before voltage regulators)
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Daggs, I wouldn't expect you to agree with me on anythingDaggs wrote:Can't agree with you mate. Think about it. If Innocenti felt a 2.5W speedo light was too bright, they would have fitted a 6V 2W or 1W. The ability of the 12V lamp to absorb excess power is why it was there. That doesn't make it a regulator, just a power sink.
. Wouldn't fitting a 6v 2w to a 6v system be almost as bright as the 12v 2.5w on a 12v system? Yes of course it would.
I await you're explanation/theory of how fitting a simple filament can sink more power than the lower resistance of the other simple filaments on the same system.
There is no logic in fitting a 12v lamp on a 6v system just to reduce brightness. Reduce the lamp wattage and the effect is achieved. I agree it seems a strange idea in this modern age. But that was what they decided to do. Have a measure of the voltage that is produced by a good condition 6V points stator system. You'll find it's more than 6V. Just as a (relatively) modern 12V AC system produces circa 30V. But in this case the Reg. deals with the excess.
Anyhow, i have no desire to get into an online argument with you or anyone. When questions are asked, i answer them if i can. I offer any advice freely. Whether my advice is heeded or ignored is not my worry.
Let's allow readers of this thread make up their own minds.....cheers.
Anyhow, i have no desire to get into an online argument with you or anyone. When questions are asked, i answer them if i can. I offer any advice freely. Whether my advice is heeded or ignored is not my worry.
Let's allow readers of this thread make up their own minds.....cheers.
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hey guys,just maybe agree to disagree on this one....as you say theres certainlly no need to fall out over such things..
its a very interesting topic though and one that i would like to understand better myself,as i,m sure others would also.
its a very interesting topic though and one that i would like to understand better myself,as i,m sure others would also.
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Yes, better to let people make their own minds up, but this is worth a read, under fitting the lightssean brady scooters wrote:hey guys,just maybe agree to disagree on this one....as you say theres certainlly no need to fall out over such things..
