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can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:50 am
by cezeta
can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

any one offering this services?

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:08 pm
by mark
Think disco Dave can get this done. He did a few lml reedvalve 150 to 200 conversions. Lulls of years ago

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:17 pm
by OzOAP
Can be done, I did a couple for Dave. Wouldn't dother though. Plenty of decent kits for 125 casings now days. Its a bit of work modding for 200 barrel and even more work to fit 200 crank.
A 200 crank can be modded to fit into 125 casings but ur very limited on inlet width.

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:27 pm
by cezeta
is there a kit that will give equal performance to a polini 208 (i dont know anything about the smaller kits or engines) or am i better off buyng 200 casings and fitting the internals into it?

stirling.....are you oz?

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:18 pm
by guygrrr
Stirling Hopkirk wrote:Can be done, I did a couple for Dave. Wouldn't dother though. Plenty of decent kits for 125 casings now days. Its a bit of work modding for 200 barrel and even more work to fit 200 crank.
A 200 crank can be modded to fit into 125 casings but ur very limited on inlet width.
hey Stirling, i thought it might be novel, down the road here a bit, to put one of these together. i think i understand what needs to happen, welding the ports up, machining the mouth, gasket face, a recess for the crank and drilling for the studs. is there anything else you found? would you do something differently? fit a ts1? ;)
thanks!

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:09 am
by gadgetman
Yes a Quattrini MIXL 172 will give better performance than the Polini and still return 45 mpg ( which is important considering the Vespas small tank)

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:04 am
by cezeta
eeeek, thats about 50 miles to a tank

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:39 am
by tony
And the 125 case has proper stud config.. unlike the 200... loads of scope... need a long stroke crank to get the cc's up.. I dont know if there is one.

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:09 pm
by cezeta
can you expand on the stud configeration bit tony, i dont know anything about vespa small block engines.....infact the only thing i know about the big block is that it biggerr than the small block :oops:

Re: can a 125 casing be converted to a 200 on a vespa?

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:34 am
by OzOAP
cezeta wrote:is there a kit that will give equal performance to a polini 208 (i dont know anything about the smaller kits or engines) or am i better off buyng 200 casings and fitting the internals into it?

stirling.....are you oz?
Dam, my cover has been blown :ninja:
My scootercrosser Malossi '166' has a fair bit of power, although it does have a 60mm P2 crank in it (175cc). The engine, with different gearing, use to be in my rally going machine. Would make much larger bikes look silly. :P
The new 172 that Mr Gadget mentioned is a powerful kit, not sure on reliability as I dont know anyone that is running one.