Connector suggestions

[sydduckett]

Im running my loom through my frame and want to put a connector in between the top of the flywheel and where the loom now enters the frame. I want to do this so that if ever have to take the engine out i dont have to muck about unscrewing it every time.

Has anyone got any suggestions for the best sort of connector for the job, needs to be quite small and waterproof. Black would also be good...

Ta
sef

[Daggs]

You could investigate 'Bulgin' plug and socket connectors (via RS components)
But personally i would just use bullet connectors and sockets or even one of the round connector boxes usually found on Lambrettas.

(You may want to edit the subject line of this post....coector !!!!!!!)

[sydduckett]

You could investigate 'Bulgin' plug and socket connectors (via RS components)
But personally i would just use bullet connectors and sockets or even one of the round connector boxes usually found on Lambrettas.

(You may want to edit the subject line of this post....coector !!!!!!!)

Oops, yeah may be an idea, didnt want to use bullets unless I could help it as there a bit ugly. Will Google Bulgin plug and see what they say.

Ta

[coaster]

Here you go http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... ectors.php

about half way down, waterproof connectors in black. If you don't aslready have one of those tools, Martin (Knowledge on here) does them at a good price although you could also use solder.

[Knowledge]

I have pm'd Sef with some potential issues with using such terminal blocks (principally, it stops you removing your stator from your mag flange).

Also, the items you highlight are weatherproof, not waterproof. Still, a dab or silicone or some vaseline may prove adequate.

How many wires have you got coming out of the stator, Sef?

[sydduckett]

I have pm'd Sef with some potential issues with using such terminal blocks (principally, it stops you removing your stator from your mag flange).

Also, the items you highlight are weatherproof, not waterproof. Still, a dab or silicone or some vaseline may prove adequate.

How many wires have you got coming out of the stator, Sef?

Will have to check that, thought it was 2? What did you think of the connectors Mart, any good?

[coaster]

[quote="Knowledge"]Also, the items you highlight are weatherproof, not waterproof. Still, a dab or silicone or some vaseline may prove adequate.quote]

Good point about being able to remove the stator, apart from using individual spade or bullit connectors, there aren't really any options it a junction box mounted on the fram isn't wanted.

As for only being weatherproof, I would say that would be fine, none of the connectors used on Lambrettas are waterproof. I have been using something very similar on my classic car from the same supplier for 18 years connecting to the headlamps just ahead of the front wheels where they get sprayed with water when it rains. I wrapped a piece of self amalgamating tape round each one and have had no issues with either of them.

[soulsurfer]

If you use an Indian gland you may have more choice as the hole is bigger.

[soullad]

Sef,
I have been reading this over and am struggling to see what exactly it is you are trying to achieve.
Assuming you are running an elec kit, 3 / 4 of your stator wires will need to go to your CDI and the other will need to go to your regulator...so in effect these now become your modern day junction boxes. Connecting your stator and frame looms to and fro these positions is the only reason you see wiring at the rear of the scoot. Electrically these are the only things that need to be disconnected to remove your engine from your frame. Whatever modifications you may be intending to do to your wiring loom usually happen after these 2 points. So would it not make sense to find a suitable "hidden" place for these two items and you should then be able to hide all the wiring completely. Of course they need to be accessible too.
If say you popped them into the toolbox, then run your stator loom up (covered in hydraulic braid or something equally cutdown friendly?) into the frame as close as possible to your mag housing top, and together with your frame loom up to the underneath of the toolbox via a matching hole in the toolbox bottom and frame , totally hidden. Maybe a jet version toolbox thats sectioned off internally could be modified to help you? The holes only need to be big enough to feed the spade terminals thru one by one. Changing stators will be fiddly but how often do you do that nowadays plus you needn't feed it thru all the holes if you doing a get you home fix anyway.
Just a thought?
Of course you may have a large tank, but some have a cut away at the front to do just this, or maybe theres another space? I've seen them mounted under the seat, in dummy oil tanks, in spare wheel wells ............

[sydduckett]

Sef,
I have been reading this over and am struggling to see what exactly it is you are trying to achieve.
Assuming you are running an elec kit, 3 / 4 of your stator wires will need to go to your CDI and the other will need to go to your regulator...so in effect these now become your modern day junction boxes. Connecting your stator and frame looms to and fro these positions is the only reason you see wiring at the rear of the scoot. Electrically these are the only things that need to be disconnected to remove your engine from your frame. Whatever modifications you may be intending to do to your wiring loom usually happen after these 2 points. So would it not make sense to find a suitable "hidden" place for these two items and you should then be able to hide all the wiring completely. Of course they need to be accessible too.
If say you popped them into the toolbox, then run your stator loom up (covered in hydraulic braid or something equally cutdown friendly?) into the frame as close as possible to your mag housing top, and together with your frame loom up to the underneath of the toolbox via a matching hole in the toolbox bottom and frame , totally hidden. Maybe a jet version toolbox thats sectioned off internally could be modified to help you? The holes only need to be big enough to feed the spade terminals thru one by one. Changing stators will be fiddly but how often do you do that nowadays plus you needn't feed it thru all the holes if you doing a get you home fix anyway.
Just a thought?
Of course you may have a large tank, but some have a cut away at the front to do just this, or maybe theres another space? I've seen them mounted under the seat, in dummy oil tanks, in spare wheel wells ............

Yeah i understand what you mean, i have the CDI & Reg hidden under the rear rack using a scooterloopy bracket plus an augusto that is bolted to one of the bolts for the rear rack all nicley hidden. The wires that run into these from the main part of the loom actualy pop out of the hole a the very end of the tube having been run through the tube from just under the headset, all very neat and as i wanted. The other part of the loom that runs from the stator is currently outside of the tube as per normal. I have drilled a hole in the tube more or less just above where the loom exits the stator with the the other end of the loom now exiting from the same place as the main loom (with me at mo?) This means that no loom can be seen anywhere on the scoot apart from the 7 inches or so that comes out of the stator and enters the tube.
This part of the loom that can be seen is where i want to put the connector. The main reasons being that i every time i need to drop the engine (which is more often than i would like) i have to either take the wires out of the stator (pain in the backside) or even worse discconect relevant bullets at CDI end and pull the loom back out through the frame. That in itself is easy and quick to do. Threading it back through however is not a nice way to spend an afternoon... The connector will allow me to simply unclip the 2 parts of the loom allowing me to drop the engine and take out completley if needs be without having to worry about the loom.

Now im not the most technical person in the world and Martin has pointed out potential issues with changing the stator although im still trying to work out what he means...

So thats the why. If i have made an error (think rob green) then im happy for someone to point it out before i balls up yet another scooter realted fix...

sef