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Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:54 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
For the most part, when we set timing on a Lambretta, we see a slight difference in the timing mark when strobed, between tickover and the revs rising. For example, if we are looking to set the timing at 17 degrees......at tickover, the static timing maybe at approx 19 degrees, but as soon as you rev the bike up it sits at its pre-set mark of 17 degrees through out the rest of the rev range (above tickover).

However as i strobed a scoot yesterday, i saw the exact opposite.....at tickover....it was sitting at approx 14 degrees and went up to 17 when revved up......i've just not seen it happen in this 'reverse' order before.

Out of curiosity i tried 3 diferent runs, changing 1 item each time (flywheel, CDI, stator) but all did the same.

Anyone else seen this before and/or got any ideas what may cause it?

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:07 pm
by martinr
have you got the scooter upside down :D

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:07 pm
by wack 63
Every time I strobe a scoot I see the same.DTI the timing ,set stator then strobe and find the marks advance when revved so I retard the stator so the marks line up when at high revs.I have noticed that even standard Vespas do this as well. I use a Gunson mains powered strobe but have never had any problems on the motors I have done but a mate recons if he uses a resistor cap and resistor plug it does the opposite ie retards.

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:45 am
by drunkmunkey6969
Thanks Wack....i'll look into that.

Cheers

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:08 pm
by eibargum
Bad earths do strange things when trying to time a bike, always worth checking.

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:59 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
cheers for those responses, i'll have a look at both.

Thanks

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:46 pm
by dirtyhandslopez
Strobe gun on the way out?

Re: Ign timing not quite as expected...

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:44 pm
by wack 63
I have had the strobe for @15 + years now but mate has one of those cheap inline ones and his does the same so I think it must be something to do with the ignitions :?