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soulsurfer wrote: Came jetted with U16, DP266 and 40 slide so tried this first without success

soulsurfer wrote:

tony wrote:The chisel one comes into its own because of its adjustability. All these motors of ours are different and to get the best out of them may need varying levels of advance and retard. This is all relative to the tune/pipe etc. Everything affects the ignition. So you may find one motor likes say 20 degrees off pipe but only 12 on and maybe 10 to get over rev. So with an adjustable unit (albeit fairly limited adjustabilty) you maybe able to find the ideal setup.

Tony (or anyone else), Could you explain this a bit further for a layman without any race knowledge? Can you explain "Off pipe", "on pipe" and "over rev"? I'm currently using an Agusto 6000 on my TS1 and experiencing high temperatures whilst cruising at 60/65mph (6-6500rpm) with 1/4-1/2 throttle. I can back off or accelerate to get around this but it's a pain in the arse watching a guage and adjusting throttle all the bloody time. I've tried jetting to get around this, to no avail. Previously static timed at 16.5 degrees, is there a better way the Agusto could be used to alleviate this heat problem at this rev range/throttle position?

drunkmunkey6969 wrote:

soulsurfer wrote: Came jetted with U16, DP266 and 40 slide so tried this first without success

What was problem/symptoms on this setting.

tony wrote:

soulsurfer wrote:

tony wrote:The chisel one comes into its own because of its adjustability. All these motors of ours are different and to get the best out of them may need varying levels of advance and retard. This is all relative to the tune/pipe etc. Everything affects the ignition. So you may find one motor likes say 20 degrees off pipe but only 12 on and maybe 10 to get over rev. So with an adjustable unit (albeit fairly limited adjustabilty) you maybe able to find the ideal setup.

Tony (or anyone else), Could you explain this a bit further for a layman without any race knowledge? Can you explain "Off pipe", "on pipe" and "over rev"? I'm currently using an Agusto 6000 on my TS1 and experiencing high temperatures whilst cruising at 60/65mph (6-6500rpm) with 1/4-1/2 throttle. I can back off or accelerate to get around this but it's a pain in the arse watching a guage and adjusting throttle all the bloody time. I've tried jetting to get around this, to no avail. Previously static timed at 16.5 degrees, is there a better way the Agusto could be used to alleviate this heat problem at this rev range/throttle position?

Off pipe- motor running below its power band. On pipe- running the motor within its power band.
Over rev.. say the pipes designed to perform from 6000 to 9000 over rev can be achieved by using a retarder and then you may hit say 9500-10,000. This is over rev.
To me that motor of yours needs proper setup with someone with a loading type dyno. They will set up the motor with correct ign advance for all rpm ranges if they know what they are doing and therefore keeping the motor at a safe temp.