Mark, if you would read things fairly instead of blindly defending your friend Sticky's prejudice every time, you would have read like everyone else that it is just a prototype in the shop. Should everyone claim that "most your stuff is stuff is s**t" because of the various prototypes you've shown? When for sale and you've
actually tried it, then you can make an informed judgment, right?
>>I had one the foxhat style spiders in the 80's
So that's even more evidence for Sticky to go after MBD, if Sticky has one rule for everyone!
I know the forum wouldn't let Sticky post prejudice then censor people pointing out very logically how it is nonsense, so must have been a glitch. Here's the post again:
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One would think that someone employed by an international magazine like
Scootering would carefully apply one standard to all. But month after month, year after year, Martin Sticky Round attacks Asian companies only.
The list is endless, but here are a few
original vs "original" for Sticky to explain why he's not a prejudiced embarrassment to international scootering:
Sticky's original on an Asian shop's item if even one report of a problem:
Numerous variations on "Even-one-is-too-much-if-you-care-about-not-killing-people!" and demands for investigations and recalls.
"I think the only standards that should be adhered to (no matter where the product is made) is that safety-critical parts don't kill anyone."
Sticky's opposite for a European shop item (e.g., BGM front dampers snapping off fork links, publicly reported by Frank Sanderson and others):
(Total silence, even when asked why a double standard.)
Sticky's original on "for show" parts from an Asian company, Sept., 2008:
"Stainless steel wheel rims supplied by ScootRS of Vietnam come marked "for show use only". The use of wheels marked "show use only" on the road is unlikely to be well looked upon by insurance companies in the event of an accident." [Followed by an explicit recommendation not to buy the ScootRS product.]
(Note: basic errors in his long highlighted sidebar warning include the fact that those rims never said "for show use only", which Sticky didn't even check (!!!), and he bizarrely included the warning because of a totally unrelated company's problem, which is exactly like warning against buying MBD cylinders when an AF cylinder has a problem. Unbelievably, Sticky and Scootering refused many requests to explain or apologize or correct Sticky's mistakes in any way at all.)
Sticky's opposite for a European company, Jan. 13, 2010:
"Its nice to know where you stand before you buy and use a part. In the case of the beautiful CNC-ally billet PX disc calliper SIP are producing they simply couldn't afford the massive cost to put it through TuV, so they have marked it 'not for highway use'. At least then if a scooterist were to polish off the 'not for highway use' markings and use it on their road scooter they know that they are doing so at their own risk."
(Note: the blatant hypocrisy is stunning.)
Sticky's original on who was 1st to produce tubeless rims, Oct., 2004:
"Two firms are independently working on tubeless Lambretta wheels. Tino Sacchi's smart-looking alloy rims have yet to make it into production, leaving ScootRS the first through the chequered flag with their pressed and welded steel wheel."
(Note: even here Sticky sounds disappointed an Asian company was "left" to come first by a European.)
Sticky's opposite for a European shop, Slimstyle Manual, 2010:
"The 1st commercial tubeless wheels were made by Tino Sacchi in 2002 using aluminum [alloy], but these proved too expensive to successfully market."
(Note: 6 years later Sticky pretends a phantom that wasn't marketable was the 1st available. Even then, we all know one-offs were always possible at any custom wheel shop for huge money.
Sticky's intent to lie is indicated by the fact that:
1) he never even checked with ScootRS about earlier one-offs, and
2) he later admitted his only "evidence" was that someone told him someone else said he made it earlier than he ever mentioned before, but couldn't sell it.
3) no one in the world saw them for sale publicly, or bought them, and when Sticky wrote his 2-part series on tubeless rims in 2004, he was explicitly told the exact same rims hadn't even been finished yet, let alone been out for 2 years already! Someone might have noticed, huh?
This lie came right after Sticky publicly stated he would treat our company badly in his writing after we criticized his anti-Asian bias. Thus he included a warning about rims that have not been made for 5 years, with fewer ever reported problems than European items he has in his manual, then lied yet again and said we ignored a valve problem for 1 year when in fact he knows we had a couple reports only and immediately let people know after we had a follow-up report on one type. -Which in turn was followed by numerous false posts by Sticky pretending the rims were designed wrong and faulty, when not one problem with the rim itself since released. Compare someone who did a little research and concluded exactly what we posted.)
The list of anti-Asian double-talk by Sticky goes on and on and on.
And here are a few product comparisons if he likes those, so he can explain his total hypocrisy and silence there:
Original (?) MBD top chain guide followed by Tino Sacchi/Cambridge version:
Funny, Sticky's friends at MBD say that Sticky's friend Tino/Cambridge copied them: "This MBD design is probably Mark's most copied invention, invented way back in 1987 and is probably the most copied part ever made for a Lambretta." And MBD copied it from a motorbike, no?
Not a word from Sticky about any of them, only about Asian shops.
Original Foxhat 5-6 plate spider followed quickly by the MBD version:
Not a word from Sticky, only about Asian shops.
Original SIP Lambretta rim followed by AF Lambretta rim version:
AF said it was OK to copy SIP because they paid for their own tooling - as though that means anything - and (wrongly) said SIP aren't doing one for Lambretta: "sip aren't doing one - & although from same source the std rims are an afr design-diff part /design number . afr own the tooling."
Not a word from Sticky, only about Asian shops. Can you imagine what vitriol Sticky will post about Asian shops when one does a Racetour cylinder and says it's OK because they paid for the tooling themselves?
Original ScootRS tubeless rim followed by MBD/SCK (attempted) version:
Never a word from Sticky, only about Asian shops.
The list goes on and on and on... On every major shop website people can see items for sale that are similar to what other shops make/sell, yet only Sticky is blind and thinks Europeans can sell what they want but Asian shops can't.
Maybe Martin Sticky Round can still prove he's not a prejudiced embarrassment to international scootering - and so childish that he offers "bananas" for mocking foreigners who help keep old scooters going -, but not until he starts applying one standard to all equally, instead of one for his European friends and another for the evil foreigners. In the past 10 years the scootering world has grown far beyond Sticky's parochialism, as much as he seems to resent that.
