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Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:02 am
by bristolmod
simonwwfc wrote:The three I take out I'm gonna replace with Allen heads
not recommended- this will wear the alloy thread after a while. If you think about it Innocenti had studs everywhere rather than screw in bolts for that very reason.
Chris
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:09 am
by shocky
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat ... bar&_rdc=1
Comes in various lenghs or you can some times buy it in1m lenghts used when putting suspended cable trays up
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:52 am
by johnny LIS150
I assumed that the chaincase cover had been removed ? if the stud is sheared off why will the cover not come off so you can get some stilsons or a stud extractor on the stud and do the job properly without damaging anything .
This is where a simple image in the first place can help explain a thousand wasted words
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:36 pm
by corrado
simonwwfc wrote:
Great bit of kit , but will it work with chain case still attached
No, you'll need to take the chain case off. Don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar. That's how things get bodged in the first place by people cutting corners. Get the correct tools for the job, they can always be sold on to recoup the outlay. Not sure who sells patience though.
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:58 pm
by johnny LIS150
corrado wrote:simonwwfc wrote:
Great bit of kit , but will it work with chain case still attached
No, you'll need to take the chain case off. Don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar. That's how things get bodged in the first place by people cutting corners. Get the correct tools for the job, they can always be sold on to recoup the outlay. Not sure who sells patience though.
very true C but its easy for me to say now that I don't have any commitments like a family and I don't have to be so careful with money
A pair of stilsons will do the job very well and you should be able to borrow a pair off any friendly neighbourhood plumber or C Heating engineer for free. Stilsons work on exactly the same principle as a stud extractor but have a more direct connection with the stud.
If the Po was anywhere near another member I'm sure they would offer to pop round and extract the stud.
The worst thing you could do is use a Mole wrench which will simply slip and chew the stud to bits leaving no option but to drill and helicoil.
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:13 pm
by goldeneye
by the time you've posted on here half a dozen times, you could have had the chaincase side off, studs out, new gasket on and case back together.
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:34 pm
by DigDug
goldeneye wrote:by the time you've posted on here half a dozen times, you could have had the chaincase side off, studs out, new gasket on and case back together.
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:18 pm
by rosscla
Cut or file a slot on the top and use a screwdriver?
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:42 am
by corrado
johnny LIS150 wrote:
very true C but its easy for me to say now that I don't have any commitments like a family and I don't have to be so careful with money
It's a £8 tool on a £4000 scooter.
Re: Removing studs out of engine case
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:09 pm
by joespeed
on any of these methods of stud extraction i would strongly recommend the use of a blow torch for heat,if studs have been loctited in you will certainly tear the threads and then need helicoils!
if the stud is not damaged just too short i would strongly recommend the long nuts as a spacer which can be wired together and then bolt the endcan bracket onto them,
this age old problem of tailpipe studs stripping i would have thought pipe designers would be using tougher mounting points that will not give any trouble like the bottom damper mount and rear jacking hole and clamping round the engine mount,