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Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:25 pm
by OzOAP
"Touring tune" f@@k me thats good.
You're spot on about the enjoyment factor of building the TS. Luckily I had all the facilities to hand.
CBA to work on other peoples bikes but enjoy 'tinkering' with mine.
There has been a lot of ifs, buts and maybe to a question that ducksta didn't ask.
Be nice if Tony can get info off his German mates and do a proper thread on long stroke T5s.
Ducksta, don't know where you are based, but I'll PM you when I take the TS on a rally to see if you're about, so you can give it a buzz up the road.
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:02 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
OzOAP wrote:
Be nice if Tony can get info off his German mates and do a proper thread on long stroke T5s.
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Yes, i'd love to see a thread on longstroke T5 motors too....
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:03 pm
by OzOAP
I put a P2 crank in T5 casings. Thats a very cheap way of going 57/60mm.
Surprised that isn't a common conversion if 28+hp is easily achievable.
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:02 pm
by drunkmunkey6969
TBH...in theory it sounds like it should be more common....60mm P2 crank running a reed valve + Mallossi 172 kit = circa 200cc
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:12 pm
by tony
I will post a link to some projects. I might even be building a long stroke t5 off the back of this thread as I have been asked to do it. If the guy goes ahead how about a side by side at the shootout oz?
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:45 pm
by sean brady scooters
but surely this brings us back around again in full circle to the question of just how much power /torque can vespa casings withstand ( p200 or T5) not to mention the clutches that have to cope with crank speeds
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:53 pm
by tony
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:04 pm
by OzOAP
tony wrote:I will post a link to some projects. I might even be building a long stroke t5 off the back of this thread as I have been asked to do it. If the guy goes ahead how about a side by side at the shootout oz?
"Cor, lets go build a T5 quicker than Oz's TS1"
To let you know, it did Santa Pod in just over 16.5 secs a couple of years ago.
Go on Tony, kick its arse with ya mates bike!
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:43 pm
by OzOAP
Met Dave from Austria on IOW about 5 years ago. Had a great afternoon discussing Vespa TS1s
The Owners Club was formed
http://youtu.be/ej_64uI2h5s
Re: who would build the following t5/ts1 conversion
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:55 pm
by tony
Well Oz you are dissing me as the 'expert' or the 'fuckwit' after all... so... I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is.
On this thread I did not knock or slag off your motor which I actually admire as a nice piece of work). I have not personally attacked you either. We had a ruck on another thread maybe 2 years ago as I felt you slagged off a friend of mine.. But I have let that go. We spoke on the phone and I guessed that was that. Let it go.. its history. Or give me a call and lets clear this up. Life is too short.
What I did though is give some honest advice based on 'port time area' to someone who asked advice. Thats what forums are for.
I am sure your vespa runs well. But it could go better and thats due to the science of port/time/area.