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Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:03 am
by frank sanderson
The simplest way to check if any hub will fit in your links is measure from the centre line of your rims to each side of the hub where it will fit between the links ,if the measurement is different on one side to the other then the hub will not be central. The difference in distance between the inside faces of the trailing links when fitted in the forks is usualy due to the forkfeet being wider apart than NOS ones would have been .We do loads of fork and suspension work and find fork feet can vary up to 15 mm in width beetween the inside faces if you have a pair of these wider set ones usualy you wont have any problems with enough room to fit the hub centrally ! But will have issues with the fork internals if you do not use packing spacers/washers even on a std hub no strain should be put on the links in order to force them in or out either way will result in the suspension not working correctly.
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:34 am
by scootRS.com
Speed Demon wrote:
A free banana for the person with the best caption to this photo.
Martin Sticky Round tries to explain away his obvious double-standard and anti-Asian positions over recent years? (Large spike after he was publicly criticized for it.)
For example, still curious how Sticky got
Scootering Magazine to include one of his anti-ScootRS rants next to a problem with a
totally unrelated company's product. (Sticky even got basic facts wrong because he didn't contact us. He also warned people not to buy "for show" items from us for insurance reasons but then turned 180 degrees around and praised a European company as responsible specifically for selling an item "for show". Such obvious hypocrisy.)
Both
Scootering and Morton's have repeatedly refused to explain
at all by email how it happened - Morton's contacted us recently so we asked them but they explicitly say they can only explain by phone, not in writing! Strange they have a such a huge fear of giving any written explanation of Sticky's past actions there, you'd think they'd just reply normally and explain it was a mistake of oversight, right?
Think about it without any bias at all: that's exactly like Sticky putting an article in
Scootering warning against buying MBD cylinders (with basic errors because he didn't even contact MBD!) alongside an article warning about an actual problem with some early AF RB kits, the feeble excuse perhaps being they are both alloy cylinder kits. Then
Scootering and Morton's refusing even to explain
at all why or how that was allowed to happen, let alone apologize and correct it when it happened. We all know Sticky would never try that with a European company and friend, but just imagine.
>>FFS Drop the Sticky stuff
But Sticky can keep up the false rumours he has out there about us? Such as trying to pretend 6 years later that we didn't come out with tubeless rims first, a European did - that one is embarrassing even to Sticky -, or that we deliberately ignored for a year a problem with one particular valve when the fact is we notified people as soon as we had a follow-up report about that type, one of only a couple reports ever. As we told him before, stop lying and using a double standard and you'll never hear a peep of complaint. Obviously a few will support him without thinking and reflexively attack the "foreigners", but most people are open-minded and hate double standards.
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:30 am
by mark
Randall just crawl back under the stone you came from. you are a horrible, vindictive, nasty rumour spreading w@nk3r so just do one and do the European scooter riding community a favour.
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:35 am
by scootRS.com
>>in your photo it does look like the tyre/wheel is around 5mm to the right ( as per photo) out of centre
Well, looks fine to me, but maybe hard to show. Do you really think we'd take a photo of an offset disc kit specifically in order to show they are centralized?
mugello74 wrote:Thanks for your replies folks.
I have redone everything and checked again.
The rubber buffers have the same height but they are behaving different under pressure of the springs.
This results that the front axle is not horizontal and the tyre is not properly alligned.
I´ve ordered some italian quality rubber buffers and will fit them as soon as they arrive at my place.

>>The simplest way to check if any hub will fit in your links is measure from the centre line of your rims to each side of the hub where it will fit between the links ,if the measurement is different on one side to the other then the hub will not be central.
As Frank explains clearly, and I tried to above, that's what you need to check to see if an issue with the kit itself. (Unlikely, but if so contact the company.) Otherwise, it is an issue with your assembly or one side of your forks.
For example, it seems you have changed the nut on the hub side. You have a thicker one sent with the kit, no? We need to make that clearer in the instructions if people are assembling wrong but not contacting us.
Hope it helps. If not, send the company an email after checking your forks/links are correct.
Cheers.
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:37 pm
by fairspares
frank sanderson wrote:The simplest way to check if any hub will fit in your links is measure from the centre line of your rims to each side of the hub where it will fit between the links ,if the measurement is different on one side to the other then the hub will not be central. The difference in distance between the inside faces of the trailing links when fitted in the forks is usualy due to the forkfeet being wider apart than NOS ones would have been .We do loads of fork and suspension work and find fork feet can vary up to 15 mm in width beetween the inside faces if you have a pair of these wider set ones usualy you wont have any problems with enough room to fit the hub centrally ! But will have issues with the fork internals if you do not use packing spacers/washers even on a std hub no strain should be put on the links in order to force them in or out either way will result in the suspension not working correctly.
ive measured between four sets off forks i have , gp indian 140mm , italian li3 140mm , italian li3 138mm , spanish 139mm .
do fork links vary in the way they angle inwards ? something ive never thought about before.
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:42 pm
by mark
yes they do most definatley
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:45 pm
by fairspares
if so , then if using one that anglse in more on one side than the other could cause the wheel to be out of centre?
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:46 pm
by mark
yes that why i set up from edge of tyre to fork leg
Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:52 pm
by sydduckett
[quote="Speed Demon"]
And you will notice that Scootrs sales increase coincided with the removal of our last sales & marketing manager....

Re: Tyre offset with scootrs disc brake fitted
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:56 pm
by fairspares
[quote="sydduckett"][quote="Speed Demon"]
as you can see this line is as straight as my wheel is central.