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i have been informed of the bgm regulator which looks simmilar to the varitronic one(if not the same)which runs a ac output and a dc for battery charging,no doubt the uk dealers will be stocking them but can be seen on scooter-center.com...
anybody got any feedback on these?

I am positive the Varitronic reg will work with an Indian stator or any other 12 v for that matter,I have one on my Vega electronic and so does a mate on his GP.Contact RCA Racer on here or Cam Lam for advice.

wack 63 wrote:I am positive the Varitronic reg will work with an Indian stator or any other 12 v for that matter,I have one on my Vega electronic and so does a mate on his GP.

It will work on a SIL stator for AC only, but the vari stator has an extra tapping to terminal 4 (charge) and is the feed for the DC out on B+. I believe this reg/rec is the same as fitted to some Peugeot Speedfights.

camel wrote:i have been informed of the bgm regulator which looks simmilar to the varitronic one(if not the same)which runs a ac output and a dc for battery charging,no doubt the uk dealers will be stocking them but can be seen on scooter-center.com...
anybody got any feedback on these?

It's different to the varitronic and will work on a SIL stator but looks very similar to the Baotian reg/reg, which I believe would do the same job (although if you want to try one, check with the seller first)..
http://www.petrolscooter.co.uk/rectifie ... 0-110.html

I can testify that the Varitronic regulator fitted to RCA Racer works fine with my fitted SIL type 12v AC stator and charges the battery no problem

I don't know if I've missed something but I'm planning to run a DC through a normal SIL stator. I got a '5 pin DC' SIL regulator which will have a pin for the battery. I guess the extra pin(s) from the regulator will have a rectifier inside the regulator converting the AC to DC.

Lamaddict wrote:I don't know if I've missed something but I'm planning to run a DC through a normal SIL stator. I got a '5 pin DC' SIL regulator which will have a pin for the battery. I guess the extra pin(s) from the regulator will have a rectifier inside the regulator converting the AC to DC.

I take this back I've just had a look and the stator is AC, the regulator can't be that smart.

RCA_Racer wrote:I can testify that the Varitronic regulator fitted to RCA Racer works fine with my fitted SIL type 12v AC stator and charges the battery no problem

OK, can you confirm that it is a varitronic one and not the type like the BGM. Are you only using 3 of the terminals or connecting it like the way Wack described earlier, with the stator power wire and the loom wires on different terminals, which would mean it isn't actually a varitronic type.
Perhaps a picture of yours may clarify the situation as the vari one is a distinct shape. I'd hate to see someone spend £25 on something that won't do the job they've bought it to do, but am happy to be proved wrong.
Kev.

Lamaddict wrote:I don't know if I've missed something but I'm planning to run a DC through a normal SIL stator. I got a '5 pin DC' SIL regulator which will have a pin for the battery. I guess the extra pin(s) from the regulator will have a rectifier inside the regulator converting the AC to DC.

If you have the correct 5 pin reg/rec then yes you will get AC to half wave DC for a battery.
These have a rectification diode and a separate regulator (series type I believe) for the DC side and allows the output to vary to suit the batteries needs.

i tried a Varitronic reg on my cutdown (wanted something small/ compact) didnt work at all. Running original AF ducati electronic .

firekdp wrote:

Lamaddict wrote:I don't know if I've missed something but I'm planning to run a DC through a normal SIL stator. I got a '5 pin DC' SIL regulator which will have a pin for the battery. I guess the extra pin(s) from the regulator will have a rectifier inside the regulator converting the AC to DC.

If you have the correct 5 pin reg/rec then yes you will get AC to half wave DC for a battery.
These have a rectification diode and a separate regulator (series type I believe) for the DC side and allows the output to vary to suit the batteries needs.

That's a relief. The thing is the drawing in the Sticky book it shows more that 4 wires leaving a 'DC stator' going to a 5 Pin regulator. On my 'AC stator' with only the 4 wires (red, green, white and purple) where do they go? I know the some go to the CDI and there's some on DC loom but I'm still puzzled.